Born: 8 Apr 1712, Boucherville, Montréal, Québec, Canada
Marriage: Marie Anne RAIZENNE-SHOENTAKOUANI on 8 May 1736 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada
Died: 13 Jul 1763, Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada at age 51
General Notes:
The Family of Louis Seguin and Marie Anne Raizenne
Louis Seguin (8 Apr 1712, Boucherville, Quebec - 13 Jul 1763, Grand Detroit, Quebec) married Marie Anne Raizenne (1719, Quebec - 27 Mar 1787, Oka, Quebec) on Sunday, 8 Apr 1736, at the Church of Our Lady of Loretto (now called the Church of the Annonciation), in Lac des Deux Montagnes (present-day Oka), Quebec).
Louis Seguin, born 8 Apr 1712, in Boucherville, QC, and baptized in the parish of Ste Famille, was the eldest son of Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau. His baptismal entry is recorded as follows and contains the names of his godparents, Louis Reguindeau and Marie Veronneau:
The year 1712, the 9th day of April, I the undersigned priest being the parish priest at the parish of Holy Family of Boucherville, baptize Louis, born the preceding day of Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau his spouse. The godfather is Louis Reguindeau, the godmother Marie Veronneau who declare as not being able to sign according to the ordinance.
C. Dauzat, priest
On his 24th birthday, 8 Apr 1736, Louis married 16 year old Marie Anne Raizenne in the church of the Annociation, Oka, QC. Marie Anne was the daughter of Ignace Raizenne and Elisabeth Nims, both of whom had been seized as captives in their childhood during the French and Indian raid on the New England village of Deerfield, Massachusetts on 29 Feb 1704. (As children they were originally named Josiah Rising and Abigail Nims but when baptized by the French, were given new names in honor of St Ignatius and Ste Elizabeth.) Since it is such an historically interesting story, I will depart momentarily from the story of Louis Seguin and Marie Anne Raizenne's lives in order to share the tale of her parents.
In 1703, the Marquis de Vaudreuil, the Governor of Nouvelle France, was convinced that an attack on the colony was likely to come from Boston. He named LeNeuf de Beaubassin in charge of an expedition, with Abenakis Indians, against the English coast from Casco to Wells. The following year, the English retaliated against the Abenakis. Consequently, Vaudreuil sent Hertel de Rouville as the head of an expedition made up of 250 French soldiers and Christian Iroquois and Hurons. On 29 Feb 1704, the small village of Deerfield, Massachusetts, situated on the Connecticut River, was raided. Ms. Elizabeth Marineau Liska, who wrote an article for The Genealogist, continues the story...
The small village of Deerfield, located along the Connecticut River in Massachusetts, was surrounded by a stockade and was inhabited by several hundred people. It was February and there was a great amount of snow cover, with some habitations almost covered over. In the fort there were twenty soldiers, provided by Governor Joseph Dudley of Massachusetts Bay.
During the night of February 28, the attackers, consisting of French soldiers, Iroquois and Huron Indians, approached the village. At dawn the attack was begun with a mighty war cry, surprising the villagers in their sleep. Doors were broken down, windows were broken and the victims were quickly floored by guns and hatchets. In minutes the disgraceful victory was won with almost no resistance. After the swift massacre, the village was completely destroyed by fire. Forty-seven known persons were killed, and 112 taken prisoners. Hardly had the sun risen on that winter day of February 29, the attackers were on their return to Canada. A few parties consisting of neighboring villagers pursued the fleeing invaders, but were unsuccessful.
The return trek to Canada [over the Green Mountains and through the snow wearing snow shoes] lasted 25 days, during which 12 prisoners died because of wounds, bad treatment, or the cold weather. Among the prisoners [who survived] were a 10 year old boy Josiah Rising [born 2 Feb 1694], and a small 4 year old girl, Abigail Nims [born 11 Jun 1700]. Along with Abigail, her mother Mehitable and a brother Ebenzer were also taken captive. Mehitable died on the journey to Canada. The Nims home had been in the stockade and later burned with three small girls. Abigail's brother Henry and sister Rebecca were among those killed.
Abigail was the daughter of Godfroi de Nismes, a French Huguenot [French Protestant] who first appeared in North Hampton, Massachusetts on September 4, 1667. He participated in Turner's fight with the Indians on May 18, 1676, and was a soldier in King Philip's War. He married a widow, Mrs Mary (Williams) Miller and lived in Deerfield, Mass. Mary died on April 27, 1688. On June 27, 1692, Godfroi (also Godfrey) married the widow of Jeremiah Hull, Mehitable Smead, daughter of William Smead. Godfrey had 11 children in all. A daughter, Thankful (Munn), escaped during the massacre because her home was hidden in the drifts of snow.
Josiah Rising, born February 2, 1694, was the son of John and Sarah (Hale), living in Suffield, Conn. The first American ancestor in this family was James Rising born in 1617, and a native of London, England. At age 18, he sailed on the "Dorset," September 13, 1635, landing near Bermuda. He then went to Salem, Mass. On July 7, 1657, he married Elizabeth Hinsdale, daughter of Robert and Anne (Woodward) Hinsdale of Boston, Mass. In 1662, James Rising and family moved to Windsor, Conn. where his young wife, Elizabeth, died on August 11, 1669. On April 2, 1673, James married Marthe Bartlett and settled in Suffield, Conn. In 1676, he bought a 50 acre farm for 16 shillings. A shilling was worth 25 cents. He was known as James Rysand," and it was under that name that he was buried on September 11, 1688.
Of James' first marriage to Elizabeth Hinsdale, a son John was born circa 1660. He married Sarah Hale on November 21, 1684; Sarah probably was the daughter of Timothy and Sarah (Barber) Hale. Sometime after his second marriage, John sent his son Josiah (born Feb 2, 1694) to visit his maternal grandparents in Deerfield, Mass. He could not know then that he was never to see his son again. John Rising had 18 children with his two wives. He died on December 11, 1720, about the age of 60. He bequeathed to his son Josiah in Canada (who would then be about 26 years old), the sum of 5 lbs in silver, payable up to three years after his (John) death, in case he [Josiah] returned from captivity.
With the arrival of the captives in Canada, Abigail was entrusted to an Indian woman, Ganastarsis, who was believed to be the wife of the Chief of Iroquois of Ours; while Josiah lived with his captor. These were Christian Indians, and did not mistreat their captives. The two young prisoners were formally adopted into the tribe in a special and significant ceremony, presided over by the great Chief. The warrior captor comes before the Chief with his captive, and is praised for his bravery. The captive is then officially given to the warrior as a slave. The slave is also given an Indian name. Josiah received the name "Shonatakak'ani" which translated to French was "il lui a ote son village" ["he was taken in his village"]. Abigail received the name "T'atog'ach," for which the French translation was "elle retire de l'eau" or "elle desenfle" ["she withdrew from the water"].
The priests of St Sulpice, missionaries at Sault-au-Recollet, considered the Protestant baptism received at Deerfield and that by the Indians insufficient, and proceeded on 11 Jun 1704 with the Catholic baptism. It was the third baptism for each. Josiah Rising was given the new name of Ignace Raizenne. Abigail Nims was also baptized and given the new name of Marie Elisabeth Nims.
Following is a translation of the baptism of Abigail:
"On Jun 15, 1704, the rites of baptism have been administered by me, the undersigned priest, to a little English girl named in her country Abigail, and now Marie Elisabeth, born at Deerfield in New England the (31 May O.S.) 11 June1700 of the marriage of Geoffroi Nimbs, shoemaker, and of Meetable Smeed also deceased. The child, taken at the said place 11th March last and living in the wigwam of a squaw of the Mountains, called Ganastasi. The godmother was Damoiselle Marie Elisabeth Lemoyne daughter of Messire Charles Le Moine, Ecuyer, Baron de Longueuil, Chevalier de l'Ordre de St Louis, and Captain of a company; with Francois Bounet who said he could not sign, inquiry having been made according to law. Mariel, priest"
/s/ Marie Elisabeth de Longueuil [witness]
Josiah was baptized similarly, and received the name Ignace.
In 1712, an attempt was made to ransom the children, then John Nims, Abigail's brother, came to Canada accompanied by Lieut. Samuel Williams. The children were not released, but Abigail's brother, Ebenezer, with his wife and their son were released. [By the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713, prisoners could obtain their liberty if they presented a request to either the Quebec, Trois Rivieres, or Montreal governments.] After the treaty of Utrecht in 1713 [nine years following the raid], the Governor M. de Vaudreuil proclaimed that all prisoners be redeemed. Many preferred to stay in their adopted homes and it was with much difficulty that their protector, Abbe Maurice Quere, obtained their release from the Iroquois Indians. Josiah and Abigail were placed in the Catholic Mission where, it is said, they were taught in the French, English, and Indian languages.
On July 29, 1715 [two years after the treaty], Ignace Raizenne (Josiah Rising) at the age of 21 years, married Elisabeth (Abigail Nims) who was 15 years old [at Notre-Dame de Lorette Church in Oka]. Following is a translation of that act:
"July 29, 1715, I have married Ignace Shoentak'ani and ElisabethT'atog'ach, both English, who wish [to] remain with the Christian Indians, not only renounce their nation but even wishing to live as Indians. In person [the presence] of Jean Baptiste Haronhiatek, Gabriel Tsirok'as, Pierre Asonthen, Alexis Tarhi. Ignace Shoentak'ani, about 23 or 24 years, and Elisabeth , about 15 years old. Both were taken at Dierfile, about 13 years ago.
Maurice Quere, priest"
In 1721, the mission of Sault-au-Recollet was transferred to Oka. Fr Quere was named there as the curate. The Raizenne family followed the missionary and the Sulpician Order gave them a vast property in the village of Oka. Two sons and six daughters were born to this couple. Marie Elisabeth Nims died at about age 46 and was buried at the mission cemetery on 3 Jan 1747. Ignace Raizenne died at age 77, on 29 Dec 1771 and was buried in the Chapel of the Kings at Oka.
Historic Deerfield, Massachusetts, is a recreated village, much like Greenfield Village is in Dearborn, Michigan, or Old City Park is in Dallas, Texas. Historic Deerfield can be visited at its
web site:
Historic Deerfield
-http://www.historic-deerfield.org/deerfield.html
Returning to the lives of Louis Seguin and Marie Anne Raizenne.....
Louis Seguin was one of the principle figures of the era. He was an rmy major of Vaudreuil, commander of the Oka fortification, a fur trader and owner of four concessions in the Cote de l'Anse, in the Vaudreuil seigneurie. In 1752, it was at Louis Seguin's residence that the Marquis of Rigaud and the engineer Louis Franquet stayed during the inspection of the fortified posts. It was also mentioned that Louis had four servants, which was rare at that time. In the fall of 1752, Louis permanently left Oka to stay with his family in Concession #49 above Grand-Detroit, where the community of Hudson is now located. He died on 13 Jul 1763, at age 51, and was buried in front of the altar in the Oka Chapel "Des Rois." Captain Lemaire (St Germain), Fr Macon de Thirlay (priest of the du Lac Mission), and Ignace Raizenne (Louis' father-in-law) all had the honor of being buried in the chapel.
In 1778, Louis' widow, Marie Anne, gave ownership of the family farm on Concession #49 to the Seigneur, the Marquis of Lothiniere, and she then returned to Oka. Marie Anne died at the age of 67 and was buried in the Oka local cemetery on March 27, 1787.
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation: Major in the Militia, 1763.
Louis married Marie Anne RAIZENNE-SHOENTAKOUANI on 8 May 1736 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada. (Marie Anne RAIZENNE-SHOENTAKOUANI was born about 1721 in Québec, Canada and died on 25 Mar 1787 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada.)
Tuesday, December 11, 2007
Jean Baptiste Seguin-Laderoute
Born: 10 Nov 1688, Boucherville, Montréal, Québec, Canada
Marriage: Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE on 7 Jun 1710 in Sainte Famille, Boucherville, Québec, Canada
Died: 13 May 1728, Montréal, Québec, Canada at age 39
General Notes:
The Family of Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore
Jean Baptiste Seguin (10 Nov 1688, Boucherville, Quebec - 13 May 1728, Montreal, Quebec) married Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore (21 Jul 1689, Boucherville, Quebec - 13 Sep 1773, Oka, Quebec) on Tuesday, 17 Jun 1710, at the Church of Ste Famille, Boucherville, Quebec.
Jean Baptiste Seguin, born on 10 Nov 1688 at approximately four o'clock in the afternoon at Boucherville, Quebec, was baptized on 12 Nov 1688 at the parish of Ste Famille in Boucherville. His godfather was Jean Baptiste Menard, an inhabitant of Longueuil, and the godmother was Catherine Menard of Ste Famille (Holy Family) parish.
Julien Beaussault was also present and was a witness.
The future bride of Jean Baptiste was Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore, daughter of Jean Barbeau dit Boisdore and Marie de Noyon. An extract from the Ste Famille parish register of her baptism by the Rev de la Saudrays is recorded below, and identifies her godparents as Jean LaFond and Marguerite de Noyon:
In late 1704, Jean Baptiste, who at the time is 16 years old, sees his older brother Francois, age 26 and named for their father, become involved in a protest against a tax on salt. The protest had its origins in the early governorship of Philippe Rigaud, Marquis de Vaudreuil. The irregularity of ships crossing the Atlantic and the high price of salt brought about the crisis. The colonists depended on salted meat and fish to get them through the winter. Fearing famine, a large crowd went to the home of a wholesale dealer who was known to have a large reserve of salt. Fr Belmont, the superior of the Sulpician order, went to meet the protestors to calm them. They had a petition asking the state to establish a lower price of salt, that other products from France be taxed to raise
money as opposed to or in addition to salt, and that the wholesaler be punished.
The Governor of Montreal, Mr de Ramesay, who was away at the time of occurrence, called on the wholesalers upon his return and convinced them to adopt a fair price. Fr Belmont sent a letter to all parish priests instructing them to read the letter at all masses, informing parishioners of the wrongfulness of mutiny. When General Governor de Vaudreuil learned of Ramesay's action, he told him he had exceeded his authority in fixing a lower price of salt. He rescinded Ramsesay's order with the salt merchants but did order the wholesale dealers to give back to the colonists any overcharge for salt. Vaudreuil was inclined to punish the protestors but he relented in this action after being persuaded by Ramesay and Fr Belmont to exercise forgiveness and leniency. Instead, Vaudreuil issued an order on 12 Dec 1704, prohibiting all residents from having meetings or they would face prosecution for sedition. The seigneurs and captains of militia were charged with ensuring the order was followed.
In the Fall of 1705, the same situation and fears arose again and a new demonstration occurred. Vaudreuil ordered the arrest of the noisiest protestors, and Ramesay executed the order. Consequently, Jean Baptiste's brother, Francois, a resident of Lachenaye, was arrested and placed in the Montreal jail. He apparently was released though, pending the commencement of an official inquiry.
On 26 Oct 1705, the Intendant, Mr Raudot, instructed his subordinate in Montreal, Sieur Fleury dit Deschambault to begin proceedings against the "rebels." Five days later, in a new order, he authorized an inquiry into the actions of Francois Seguin. Under the law, Francois was considered guilty unless he could otherwise prove his innocence, and was not allowed to be represented by a lawyer. On 31 Oct 1705, Deschambeault interrogated his prisoner, and also learned of an accomplice, Jean Baptiste Lapointe. Francois was questioned again on 25 Nov 1705. The following day, Intendant Raudot commanded that
Francois and Lapointe be arrested and taken to prison for further questioning. Francois, father of an 18 month old daughter, had to take leave of his wife, Marie Louise (Feuillon) Seguin, who was expecting their second child. On 8 Dec 1705, the two accused men were transferred to Quebec City to repeat their depositions asserting their innocence. In this system, Francois' two older brothers, Pierre (age 33) and Simon (age 31) were compelled to act as prosecution witnesses.
Christmas passed and on 4 Jan 1706, the proceedings resumed when Intendant Raudot ordered nine other witnesses to appear at the request of the prosecutor, Paul Dupuy. Finally, on 9 Jan 1706, the court rendered its verdict, concluding that both Francois and Lapointe were guilty of holding meetings to present a request to contravene the Governor General's ordinance of 1704. The court blamed Francois in particular as having "held seditious speeches which could entice those hearing them to revolt." Both men were fined 30 pounds sterling and were forbidden to violate the ordinance again. The punishment, imposed while Vaudreuil was governor, was considered light, and would likely have meant being sent to the king's galleys under the previous governor,
Frontenac. The Minister de Pontchartrain reproached Vaudreuil even as late as 20 Jun 1707 in a letter. He accused Vaudreuil of mildness and that more of an example should have been made of the two men, otherwise, the government would be seen as weak by the "rebels," who would likely continue such activities.
Thus ended the prosecutorial action of Jean Baptiste's brother. Was Francois a troublemaker or just a leader who did not hesitate to put his liberty in jeopardy to help his fellow citizens in their claim for what was fair and just? Such were the conditions and times that our direct ancestor, Jean Baptiste Seguin, lived in as he approached adulthood.
Four years later, on 7 Jun 1710, Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau were married in a ceremony performed by Fr Pierre Rodolphe de la Saudrays, at Ste Famille parish in Boucherville, Quebec. Together this couple forms Generation III of the Seguin family line. Their entry in the parish register is recorded:
On the seventh day of June 1710, having obtained dispensation of the banns from Mr. Colombiere, the grand Archdeacon and Vicar General of the Monsignor Bishop of Quebec, I the undersigned priest of Boucherville, married in the Boucherville church of Holy Family of Boucherville, Jean Baptiste Seguin, age 22 years, the son of deceased Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, and of Jeanne Petit his living spouse dwelling at Boucherville, with Genevieve Barbot Boisdore, age 21 years, the daughter of Sir Jean Barbot and of Marie de Noyon his spouse, inhabitants of Boucherville, and having given to them the nuptial blessing in the presence of Sir Boisdore the father of the bride, of Mr LaBaume, cirugien and royal notary, of Mr Tetro, school master, and Nicolas du Bray, witnesses and friends of the husband who have signed with me according to the ordinance.
R. de la Soudrays, priest
/s/ Barbot, Taillandier, Louyse de Noyon
On 25 Mar 1725, the first census of Vaudreuil conducted by Philippe de Rigaud, Marquis of Vaudreuil, counted 38 families, eight of which never settled to work and farm the land. Thirty families, however, settled on their concessions. Jean Baptiste was one of these first settlers and the date of his possession (Concession #15 of l'Anse) was prior to that of the Leger and the Poirier families, making Jean Baptiste's family the oldest of Vaudreuil Township.
He died 13 May 1728 at the Hotel of God at age 45 and was buried 14 May 1728 in an area east of Montreal called Chambly. Name mentioned in the burial register: M. Falcoz priest, Simon Monginos
(Mongeneau) bedeau and M. Julien priest.
Genevieve remarried on 18 Apr 1730 in Montreal to Charles Philippe Rolland, and they had a daughter, Genevieve Marguerite Rolland who died at the age of 2 (16 Dec 1730 - 26 Dec 1732). Genevieve at age 55, had a third marriage, to Jean Besnard on 3 Feb 1744 at Montreal. She passed away on 26 Dec 1732 and was buried at Oka, QC.
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation: Farmer of Giasson, 1717.
Jean married Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE, daughter of Jean Baptiste BARBEAU-BOISDORE and Marie DENOYON, on 7 Jun 1710 in Sainte Famille, Boucherville, Québec, Canada. (Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE was born on 20 Jul 1689 in Boucherville, Montréal, Québec, Canada and died on 13 Sep 1773 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada.)
Marriage: Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE on 7 Jun 1710 in Sainte Famille, Boucherville, Québec, Canada
Died: 13 May 1728, Montréal, Québec, Canada at age 39
General Notes:
The Family of Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore
Jean Baptiste Seguin (10 Nov 1688, Boucherville, Quebec - 13 May 1728, Montreal, Quebec) married Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore (21 Jul 1689, Boucherville, Quebec - 13 Sep 1773, Oka, Quebec) on Tuesday, 17 Jun 1710, at the Church of Ste Famille, Boucherville, Quebec.
Jean Baptiste Seguin, born on 10 Nov 1688 at approximately four o'clock in the afternoon at Boucherville, Quebec, was baptized on 12 Nov 1688 at the parish of Ste Famille in Boucherville. His godfather was Jean Baptiste Menard, an inhabitant of Longueuil, and the godmother was Catherine Menard of Ste Famille (Holy Family) parish.
Julien Beaussault was also present and was a witness.
The future bride of Jean Baptiste was Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore, daughter of Jean Barbeau dit Boisdore and Marie de Noyon. An extract from the Ste Famille parish register of her baptism by the Rev de la Saudrays is recorded below, and identifies her godparents as Jean LaFond and Marguerite de Noyon:
In late 1704, Jean Baptiste, who at the time is 16 years old, sees his older brother Francois, age 26 and named for their father, become involved in a protest against a tax on salt. The protest had its origins in the early governorship of Philippe Rigaud, Marquis de Vaudreuil. The irregularity of ships crossing the Atlantic and the high price of salt brought about the crisis. The colonists depended on salted meat and fish to get them through the winter. Fearing famine, a large crowd went to the home of a wholesale dealer who was known to have a large reserve of salt. Fr Belmont, the superior of the Sulpician order, went to meet the protestors to calm them. They had a petition asking the state to establish a lower price of salt, that other products from France be taxed to raise
money as opposed to or in addition to salt, and that the wholesaler be punished.
The Governor of Montreal, Mr de Ramesay, who was away at the time of occurrence, called on the wholesalers upon his return and convinced them to adopt a fair price. Fr Belmont sent a letter to all parish priests instructing them to read the letter at all masses, informing parishioners of the wrongfulness of mutiny. When General Governor de Vaudreuil learned of Ramesay's action, he told him he had exceeded his authority in fixing a lower price of salt. He rescinded Ramsesay's order with the salt merchants but did order the wholesale dealers to give back to the colonists any overcharge for salt. Vaudreuil was inclined to punish the protestors but he relented in this action after being persuaded by Ramesay and Fr Belmont to exercise forgiveness and leniency. Instead, Vaudreuil issued an order on 12 Dec 1704, prohibiting all residents from having meetings or they would face prosecution for sedition. The seigneurs and captains of militia were charged with ensuring the order was followed.
In the Fall of 1705, the same situation and fears arose again and a new demonstration occurred. Vaudreuil ordered the arrest of the noisiest protestors, and Ramesay executed the order. Consequently, Jean Baptiste's brother, Francois, a resident of Lachenaye, was arrested and placed in the Montreal jail. He apparently was released though, pending the commencement of an official inquiry.
On 26 Oct 1705, the Intendant, Mr Raudot, instructed his subordinate in Montreal, Sieur Fleury dit Deschambault to begin proceedings against the "rebels." Five days later, in a new order, he authorized an inquiry into the actions of Francois Seguin. Under the law, Francois was considered guilty unless he could otherwise prove his innocence, and was not allowed to be represented by a lawyer. On 31 Oct 1705, Deschambeault interrogated his prisoner, and also learned of an accomplice, Jean Baptiste Lapointe. Francois was questioned again on 25 Nov 1705. The following day, Intendant Raudot commanded that
Francois and Lapointe be arrested and taken to prison for further questioning. Francois, father of an 18 month old daughter, had to take leave of his wife, Marie Louise (Feuillon) Seguin, who was expecting their second child. On 8 Dec 1705, the two accused men were transferred to Quebec City to repeat their depositions asserting their innocence. In this system, Francois' two older brothers, Pierre (age 33) and Simon (age 31) were compelled to act as prosecution witnesses.
Christmas passed and on 4 Jan 1706, the proceedings resumed when Intendant Raudot ordered nine other witnesses to appear at the request of the prosecutor, Paul Dupuy. Finally, on 9 Jan 1706, the court rendered its verdict, concluding that both Francois and Lapointe were guilty of holding meetings to present a request to contravene the Governor General's ordinance of 1704. The court blamed Francois in particular as having "held seditious speeches which could entice those hearing them to revolt." Both men were fined 30 pounds sterling and were forbidden to violate the ordinance again. The punishment, imposed while Vaudreuil was governor, was considered light, and would likely have meant being sent to the king's galleys under the previous governor,
Frontenac. The Minister de Pontchartrain reproached Vaudreuil even as late as 20 Jun 1707 in a letter. He accused Vaudreuil of mildness and that more of an example should have been made of the two men, otherwise, the government would be seen as weak by the "rebels," who would likely continue such activities.
Thus ended the prosecutorial action of Jean Baptiste's brother. Was Francois a troublemaker or just a leader who did not hesitate to put his liberty in jeopardy to help his fellow citizens in their claim for what was fair and just? Such were the conditions and times that our direct ancestor, Jean Baptiste Seguin, lived in as he approached adulthood.
Four years later, on 7 Jun 1710, Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau were married in a ceremony performed by Fr Pierre Rodolphe de la Saudrays, at Ste Famille parish in Boucherville, Quebec. Together this couple forms Generation III of the Seguin family line. Their entry in the parish register is recorded:
On the seventh day of June 1710, having obtained dispensation of the banns from Mr. Colombiere, the grand Archdeacon and Vicar General of the Monsignor Bishop of Quebec, I the undersigned priest of Boucherville, married in the Boucherville church of Holy Family of Boucherville, Jean Baptiste Seguin, age 22 years, the son of deceased Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, and of Jeanne Petit his living spouse dwelling at Boucherville, with Genevieve Barbot Boisdore, age 21 years, the daughter of Sir Jean Barbot and of Marie de Noyon his spouse, inhabitants of Boucherville, and having given to them the nuptial blessing in the presence of Sir Boisdore the father of the bride, of Mr LaBaume, cirugien and royal notary, of Mr Tetro, school master, and Nicolas du Bray, witnesses and friends of the husband who have signed with me according to the ordinance.
R. de la Soudrays, priest
/s/ Barbot, Taillandier, Louyse de Noyon
On 25 Mar 1725, the first census of Vaudreuil conducted by Philippe de Rigaud, Marquis of Vaudreuil, counted 38 families, eight of which never settled to work and farm the land. Thirty families, however, settled on their concessions. Jean Baptiste was one of these first settlers and the date of his possession (Concession #15 of l'Anse) was prior to that of the Leger and the Poirier families, making Jean Baptiste's family the oldest of Vaudreuil Township.
He died 13 May 1728 at the Hotel of God at age 45 and was buried 14 May 1728 in an area east of Montreal called Chambly. Name mentioned in the burial register: M. Falcoz priest, Simon Monginos
(Mongeneau) bedeau and M. Julien priest.
Genevieve remarried on 18 Apr 1730 in Montreal to Charles Philippe Rolland, and they had a daughter, Genevieve Marguerite Rolland who died at the age of 2 (16 Dec 1730 - 26 Dec 1732). Genevieve at age 55, had a third marriage, to Jean Besnard on 3 Feb 1744 at Montreal. She passed away on 26 Dec 1732 and was buried at Oka, QC.
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation: Farmer of Giasson, 1717.
Jean married Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE, daughter of Jean Baptiste BARBEAU-BOISDORE and Marie DENOYON, on 7 Jun 1710 in Sainte Famille, Boucherville, Québec, Canada. (Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE was born on 20 Jul 1689 in Boucherville, Montréal, Québec, Canada and died on 13 Sep 1773 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada.)
Laurent Seguin
Born: Abt 1621
Marriage: Marie MASSIEU on 14 Jul 1643 in Saint Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France
Died: 22 Nov 1706, Senantes, France about age 85
General Notes:
The Family of Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu
Laurent Seguin (c. 1621, France - 22 Nov 1706, Senantes, France) married Marie Massieu (1622, France - 25 Oct 1650, Cuigy-en-Bray, France) on Tuesday, 14 Jul 1643, at the Church of St Leu and St Brice, Cuigy-en-Bray, France. She was the daughter of Adrien Massieu and Louise Beaudry. Their ceremony was performed by Fr Pouchard. Laurent and Marie were later inhabitants of the parish of Dombre, part of the Catholic Diocese of Beauvais, in what is now the Department of Oise, in the historic region of Picardie, France.
Today, in the French governmental structure, the region of Picardie (one of 22 regions in France) has within it three Departments (Oise, Somme, and Aisne). Under Napoleon, 96 Departments were established throughout the country. Beauvais (pop. 53,000) is the governmental center of the Oise Department, while Amiens is the regional capitol. The larger towns found in the Oise Department, include Beauvais, Compiegne, Senlis, Chantilly, and Ermenonville.
Beauvais is about 60 miles north/northwest of Paris in the north central area of the country. The communities of Cuigy-en-Bray (marriage of Laurent and Marie), St Aubin-en-Bray (baptism of their son Francois), and Ons-en-Bray (the apparent first home of Laurent and Marie) lie in a straight line (in that order) just west of Beauvais, along Road D-109, with Cuigy-en-Bray being the farthest west. The village of Senantes, the burial location of Laurent, lies just north of Cuigy-en-Bray.
The following marriage information, listing the names of the two witnesses, is an extract obtained on 27 May 1961 from the register of baptisms, marriages, and burials at the parish of St Leu and St Brice in Cuigy-en-Bray during the year 1643:
Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu le jour que dessus en presence du dit sieur vicaire, d'Adrian Desmellieres et Denis Tornant, lesequels ont signer avec les partyes le jour et an dessus dits.
Additionally, the following information pertaining to their family comes from an article by Robert-Lionel Seguin, published in Le Droit on 10 Sep 1965, and in La Presse on 24 Dec 1965.
Francois Seguin was born and raised in St Aubin-en-Bray, diocese of Beauvais in Picardie. He was born 4 Jul 1644, and his parents were Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu. He was named after his godfather, Francois Dufour [Oudin]. The Seguin and the Massieu [families] did not inhabit St Aubin-en-Bray. One may ask, why was their first born baptized at St Aubin-en-Bray while being designated at his marriage in 1672 as being from Ons-en-Bray? It seems that the clergyman happened to be temporarily passing through St Aubin-en-Bray and the parents took advantage of this situation to have their child baptized.
At Jamericourt [south of Ons-en-Bray], an hamlet neighboring St Aubin-en-Bray, Marie Massieu gave birth to a girl, Renee, on 19 Nov 1645. Her husband, Laurent, is designated as "clerc" or clerk, in that village and he also filled in the functions of magistrate and school teacher. Occasionally, he would even act as cantor during he religious ceremonies and help the parish priest with his church records and financial duties.
Because of missing registers, we lose trace of the family for a number of years. We locate it later on at Jouy-sous-Thelle [south of St Aubin-en-Bray], where a son, Pierre, was born 29 Jan 1648. [Another son, Laurent, is born in the same village on 10 Dec 1649.] Unfortunately, Marie Massieu dies at Cuigy-en-Bray on 25 Oct 1650 at the age of 28.
Whether Laurent remarried following his wife's death is unknown, although it seems probable since he lived to approximately 85 years of age. It is also reasonable to assume that at least one of his two other sons who remained in France (Pierre and Laurent) lived to adulthood, married, and had descendants. Today, the name Seguin is the 216th most commonly found surname of approximately 300,000 surnames in France.
Laurent married Marie MASSIEU on 14 Jul 1643 in Saint Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France. (Marie MASSIEU was born about 1622 in France and died on an unknown date.)
Marriage: Marie MASSIEU on 14 Jul 1643 in Saint Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France
Died: 22 Nov 1706, Senantes, France about age 85
General Notes:
The Family of Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu
Laurent Seguin (c. 1621, France - 22 Nov 1706, Senantes, France) married Marie Massieu (1622, France - 25 Oct 1650, Cuigy-en-Bray, France) on Tuesday, 14 Jul 1643, at the Church of St Leu and St Brice, Cuigy-en-Bray, France. She was the daughter of Adrien Massieu and Louise Beaudry. Their ceremony was performed by Fr Pouchard. Laurent and Marie were later inhabitants of the parish of Dombre, part of the Catholic Diocese of Beauvais, in what is now the Department of Oise, in the historic region of Picardie, France.
Today, in the French governmental structure, the region of Picardie (one of 22 regions in France) has within it three Departments (Oise, Somme, and Aisne). Under Napoleon, 96 Departments were established throughout the country. Beauvais (pop. 53,000) is the governmental center of the Oise Department, while Amiens is the regional capitol. The larger towns found in the Oise Department, include Beauvais, Compiegne, Senlis, Chantilly, and Ermenonville.
Beauvais is about 60 miles north/northwest of Paris in the north central area of the country. The communities of Cuigy-en-Bray (marriage of Laurent and Marie), St Aubin-en-Bray (baptism of their son Francois), and Ons-en-Bray (the apparent first home of Laurent and Marie) lie in a straight line (in that order) just west of Beauvais, along Road D-109, with Cuigy-en-Bray being the farthest west. The village of Senantes, the burial location of Laurent, lies just north of Cuigy-en-Bray.
The following marriage information, listing the names of the two witnesses, is an extract obtained on 27 May 1961 from the register of baptisms, marriages, and burials at the parish of St Leu and St Brice in Cuigy-en-Bray during the year 1643:
Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu le jour que dessus en presence du dit sieur vicaire, d'Adrian Desmellieres et Denis Tornant, lesequels ont signer avec les partyes le jour et an dessus dits.
Additionally, the following information pertaining to their family comes from an article by Robert-Lionel Seguin, published in Le Droit on 10 Sep 1965, and in La Presse on 24 Dec 1965.
Francois Seguin was born and raised in St Aubin-en-Bray, diocese of Beauvais in Picardie. He was born 4 Jul 1644, and his parents were Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu. He was named after his godfather, Francois Dufour [Oudin]. The Seguin and the Massieu [families] did not inhabit St Aubin-en-Bray. One may ask, why was their first born baptized at St Aubin-en-Bray while being designated at his marriage in 1672 as being from Ons-en-Bray? It seems that the clergyman happened to be temporarily passing through St Aubin-en-Bray and the parents took advantage of this situation to have their child baptized.
At Jamericourt [south of Ons-en-Bray], an hamlet neighboring St Aubin-en-Bray, Marie Massieu gave birth to a girl, Renee, on 19 Nov 1645. Her husband, Laurent, is designated as "clerc" or clerk, in that village and he also filled in the functions of magistrate and school teacher. Occasionally, he would even act as cantor during he religious ceremonies and help the parish priest with his church records and financial duties.
Because of missing registers, we lose trace of the family for a number of years. We locate it later on at Jouy-sous-Thelle [south of St Aubin-en-Bray], where a son, Pierre, was born 29 Jan 1648. [Another son, Laurent, is born in the same village on 10 Dec 1649.] Unfortunately, Marie Massieu dies at Cuigy-en-Bray on 25 Oct 1650 at the age of 28.
Whether Laurent remarried following his wife's death is unknown, although it seems probable since he lived to approximately 85 years of age. It is also reasonable to assume that at least one of his two other sons who remained in France (Pierre and Laurent) lived to adulthood, married, and had descendants. Today, the name Seguin is the 216th most commonly found surname of approximately 300,000 surnames in France.
Laurent married Marie MASSIEU on 14 Jul 1643 in Saint Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France. (Marie MASSIEU was born about 1622 in France and died on an unknown date.)
Francois Seguin-Laderoute
The Family of Francois Seguin and Jeanne Petit
Francois Seguin (4 Jul 1644, St Aubin-en-Bray, France - c. 1701, Quebec) married Jeanne Petit (1656, LaRochelle, France - 29 Mar 1733, Longueuil, Quebec) on Monday, 31 Oct 1672, at the Church of Ste Famille, Boucherville, Quebec.
The following is an extract from the register of baptisms, marriages, and burials of the parish of St Aubin-en-Bray, at St Aubin-en-Bray, France, and gives the date of Francois' baptism and the names of his parents and godfather and godmother:
Francois Seguin fils de Laurent Seguin et de Marie Massieu a este [le] 4e jour de juillet 1644 et a pour son parrein Francois Oudin et pour sa marreine Jehanne Dufour.
An account of Francois Seguin's life continues with the excerpt previously mentioned as being authored by Robert-Lionel Seguin.
Francois Seguin, who is six years of age at the time of his mother's death, will be taken in by his maternal grandparents with whom he lives until old enough to choose a trade. At that time [Dec 1644], troops are being levied by [the] regiment de Carignan for service in Nouvelle France [New France] to wage war against the Iroquois [Indian Nation composed of Mohawks, Oneidas, Sencecas, Onandagas, and Cayugas]. Francois, who is 20 years of age, joins the company of Monsieur [Captain Pierre] de St Ours [1640-1724] and embarks aboard the St Sebastien [ship] [on 13 May 1665 at LaRochelle], landing at Quebec, on 12 Sep 1665. The soldiers of that company will spend the following winter at the fort of Saurel (Sorel), at the mouth of the Richelieu River.
After three years of war, the company is finally discharged. As a reward, the officers are granted land with the title of seigneurs. Monsieur de St Ours [Sieur de L'Echaillon] was allocated a seigneurie on the Richelieu River and Francois Seguin obtains a fief on his officer's land. Later, Monsieur de St Ours, who finds he has financial trouble in his seigneurie, is designated by the governor to levy troops for the defense of Montreal [known at that time as Ville Marie] and he reorganizes his company. Many of his former soldiers join him, including Francois, who is still unmarried. He remains in garrison with his company for a few months but then returns to his farm at St Ours. [On 14 Sep 1671, at Boucherville, Francois leases for two years, a piece of land 50 arpents in area, belonging to Robert Henry. He also acquires a house to live in on the condition that he cut and clear two arpents of the land per year.] By trade, Francois was a weaver as were most of the residents of Beauvais, his native province. Therefore, whenever his farm work allows him free time and whenever there is a demand by the local peasants for his trade, he works as a weaver.
He must have dreamed of settling along the St Lawrence River because on 22 Sep 1672, he exchanges his farm at St Ours for that of Pierre Chaperon in Boucherville. [The new farm consists of two arpents in frontage by 25 arpents deep, and four square arpents have already been cleared. Is is bordered on either side by the lots of Gilbert Guilleman dit Duvaillars, former surgeon of the Carignan Regment, and Pierre Bourgery. On this same occasion, for the price of 85 livres, he also purchases a lot of one square half-arpent on which is situated a "barn which is found built there."] The deed is signed before the notary Thomas Frerot and it is followed by the sale of two or three lots from that same farm. His business transactions still leave him some time to do some socializing.
In fact, visiting a fille du roi, living with the Sisters of the Congregation, takes some of his time. Her name is Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and of Jeanne Godreau, native of the parish St Marguerite in the [western port] city of La Rochelle [France].
On 10 Feb, 1671, several months before the arrival of a new ship carrying eligible young women, Colbert writes to Talon, informing him:
I have also ordered that you be sent certification of the places where the girls are from, which will clearly make known that they are free and of marriageable state.
Jeanne Petit, the daughter of Jean Petit and Jeanne Gaudreau, in our family genealogy, was one of these "Daughters of the King". Born in1656, she was from the parish of Ste Marguerite in the town of LaRochelle, in the historic province of Aunis on the west coast of France. Possibly she was from a poor family but both she and her parents saw an opportunity for her to better herself through the king's dowry, or perhaps she was an orphan as some of the young women were. During the year 1671, Jeanne was one of 125 women to make the voyage across the Atlantic, and was among the 19 who went to the Montreal region. After her arrival in Quebec on the ship L'Esperance, Jeanne likely was taken in under the protectorship of the Montreal-based Sisters of the Congregation of Notre-Dame (who had arrived in 1653 under Soeur Marguerite Bourgeoys), until a prospective husband might propose to her. It is unlikely that the Ursuline Nuns (who had arrived in 1636 and were under the direction of Soeur Marie Guyard de Incarnation) cared for her since they were based in Quebec City.
Francois must have met Jeanne during this period and developed a love interest in her because on Wednesday, 21 Sep 1692, a marriage contract was drawn up between the two of them by the notary, Thomas Frerot. This was done the day before he exchanged his farm at St Ours for the one in Boucherville. It becomes apparent that Francois met and courted Jeanne, proposed marriage to her, had the contract drawn up, and then made the exchange of farms with the intent of settling in Boucherville with his future bride. The unusual aspect of their engagement is that when the filles du roi arrived in Quebec and were allowed to disembark in groups at Quebec City, Trois Rivieres, and Montreal, they were normally married within two weeks. This quick matrimonial process occurred because the women would be taken during that period to a hall where they could be observed and addressed by the soldiers or habitants. The filles du roi however, would question the men as to whether they had land, if any of it had been cleared, and if they owned livestock. The women held the upper hand and made the final decision as to whether they would consent to marriage. Since Jeanne was born in 1656 and arrived in 1671, but did not become engaged until Sep 1672, one might speculate that she was sheltered by the nuns for at least a nine month period until she turned 16.
The original marriage contract is on file in the Judicial Archives of Montreal and reads in French (complete with spelling errors):
[Signatures or the marks of the persons in attendance who are named above appear at the bottom of the document. Francois initially signs his name simply as "Laderoute" but draws a line through it and then writes
"Francois Seguin."]
One month and ten days following the notarization of the marriage contract (similar to a marriage license application and a promise to marry), the wedding day arrives. Seven years have passed since Francois first landed in Nouvelle France as a soldier with the Carignan Regiment. On 31 Oct 1672, Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, the son of Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu, marries Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and Jeanne Gaudreau. The ceremony is performed by a
missionary priest, Fr Pierre de Caumont, at Ste Famille (Holy Family) parish in Boucherville, Quebec. According to Laforest, typically when a filles du roi would marry, "...the newly married couple was given 50 livres to buy provisions, plus an ox and a cow, two pigs, a pair of chickens, two barrels of salt meat, and 11 crowns of money. This was supposed to give the newlyweds a start. Together this couple of Francois and Jeanne forms Generation II of the Seguin family line.
The parish register of Ste Famille carries the marriage entry:
In the year of Our Lord, 1672, the 3lst of the month of October, after the proclamation of banns during three feast days at the celebration of the parish mass, having met no impediments, Pierre de Caumont, a missionary priest doing curial functions at Boucherville, after having done the necessary requests and interrogations to Francois Seguin, inhabitant of Boucherville, son of Laurent Seguin and of Marie Massieu, parish of Dombre in Picardie, diocese of Beauvais, and to Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and of Jeanne Gaudreau, Ste Marguerite parish, town and diocese of LaRochelle, after having received their mutual consent, I, Pierre de Caumont, a missionary priest, married them in
presence of known witnesses.
/s/ Boucher, Remy, Jean la Fond
[The signatures of three witnesses who are present - Boucher, Remy, and Jean la Fond - appear at the bottom of the document. Seigneur Pierre Boucher for whom Boucherville is named and his wife, Jeanne Crevier, are notable witnesses to the ceremony, and shows the onsideration he had for Francois.]
On 25 Jan 1673, Francois sold the land he had acquired from Pierre Chaperon to Francois Senecal, a servant of seigneur Boucher. On this farm was "a house not completed." On 4 Apr 1673, Seigneur Boucher listed the 38 land grantees and Francois figured among them. He lived on a piece of land of 50 arpents (2 x 25 mentioned earlier), flanked by the lands of Jacques Menard and Pierre Martin. On 2 Jun 1675, Francois leased from Francois Pillet "a four year old brown cow valued at 60 lvres, which required Francois to feed the cow and any offspring and to pay Mr Pillet 12 livres per year. In the census of 1681, Francois declares his occupation to be a weaver, and with his wife, gives the names and ages of their first four children. On 10 Oct 1683, he leased a cow belonging to Denis Veronneau. On 24 Nov 1698, Francois sold his concession of 50 arpents [with a poor building upon it] to Jean Baptiste Lamoureux for 850 livres. Apparently immediate payment was made in 400 livres in playing card money, 200 in assorted merchandise, and 60 by the value of 20 minots of wheat. The remainder was due on the next feast of St Jean Baptiste, 24 Jun 1699. (The feast of St Jean Baptiste must have been a major holiday then even as it is today in Quebec.) On 15 Apr 1700, Francois and Jeanne are granted by Madame de la Valtrie the privilege of living on a strip of wooded land on the Ile Grosbois, along the channel. It is two arpents wide and deep [as far as the tip of the island, across from l'ile aux Raisins.] Francois, in addition to giving two work days each autumn, was required to take care of the donor's two cows. He and Jeanne lived together on this land until death. Francois originally was thought to have died 9 May 1704 in Montreal and buried on 10 May 1704 under the name of Pierre Seguin. Later research however, disclosed that marriage contracts of his daughter, Marie Madeleine, to Antoine Marie dit Ste Marie on 20 Nov 1700 (when Francois is shown as absent due to health reasons), and daughter, Marie Jeanne, to Joseph Robidou on 10 Oct 1701 (when Jeanne Petit is listed as a widow) prove that he did not die in 1704, but rather in the period of 20 Nov 1700 - 10 Oct 1701. His place of burial is unknown.
On 19 Mar 1713, Jeanne gave the concession of the Ile Grosbois, which she and Francois had originally received in Apr 1700, to Marie Anne Margane, the widow of Ignace Boucher. Jeanne then moved to Lachenaie to live with the third oldest of her children, Francois, who was 35 years old and married to Marie Louise Feuillon. Jeanne died on Sunday, 29 Mar 1733, and was buried in Longueuil, a community on the east side of Montreal.
On an interesting note, the author, Thomas J. Laforest, states in his book, Our French-Canadian Ancestors (Volume XXV):
When Pierre de Saint-Ours, former officer of the Carignan Regiment, drew up his will in 1704, he bequeathed "in case of death" 400 livres to the soldiers whom he had previously commanded. The name of Francois was mentioned in the list of beneficiaries. The seigneur died in 1724. [It is apparent that Saint-Ours was unaware of Francois' death which had already occurred around 1701.]
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation: Habitant, 1672.
Francois Seguin (4 Jul 1644, St Aubin-en-Bray, France - c. 1701, Quebec) married Jeanne Petit (1656, LaRochelle, France - 29 Mar 1733, Longueuil, Quebec) on Monday, 31 Oct 1672, at the Church of Ste Famille, Boucherville, Quebec.
The following is an extract from the register of baptisms, marriages, and burials of the parish of St Aubin-en-Bray, at St Aubin-en-Bray, France, and gives the date of Francois' baptism and the names of his parents and godfather and godmother:
Francois Seguin fils de Laurent Seguin et de Marie Massieu a este [le] 4e jour de juillet 1644 et a pour son parrein Francois Oudin et pour sa marreine Jehanne Dufour.
An account of Francois Seguin's life continues with the excerpt previously mentioned as being authored by Robert-Lionel Seguin.
Francois Seguin, who is six years of age at the time of his mother's death, will be taken in by his maternal grandparents with whom he lives until old enough to choose a trade. At that time [Dec 1644], troops are being levied by [the] regiment de Carignan for service in Nouvelle France [New France] to wage war against the Iroquois [Indian Nation composed of Mohawks, Oneidas, Sencecas, Onandagas, and Cayugas]. Francois, who is 20 years of age, joins the company of Monsieur [Captain Pierre] de St Ours [1640-1724] and embarks aboard the St Sebastien [ship] [on 13 May 1665 at LaRochelle], landing at Quebec, on 12 Sep 1665. The soldiers of that company will spend the following winter at the fort of Saurel (Sorel), at the mouth of the Richelieu River.
After three years of war, the company is finally discharged. As a reward, the officers are granted land with the title of seigneurs. Monsieur de St Ours [Sieur de L'Echaillon] was allocated a seigneurie on the Richelieu River and Francois Seguin obtains a fief on his officer's land. Later, Monsieur de St Ours, who finds he has financial trouble in his seigneurie, is designated by the governor to levy troops for the defense of Montreal [known at that time as Ville Marie] and he reorganizes his company. Many of his former soldiers join him, including Francois, who is still unmarried. He remains in garrison with his company for a few months but then returns to his farm at St Ours. [On 14 Sep 1671, at Boucherville, Francois leases for two years, a piece of land 50 arpents in area, belonging to Robert Henry. He also acquires a house to live in on the condition that he cut and clear two arpents of the land per year.] By trade, Francois was a weaver as were most of the residents of Beauvais, his native province. Therefore, whenever his farm work allows him free time and whenever there is a demand by the local peasants for his trade, he works as a weaver.
He must have dreamed of settling along the St Lawrence River because on 22 Sep 1672, he exchanges his farm at St Ours for that of Pierre Chaperon in Boucherville. [The new farm consists of two arpents in frontage by 25 arpents deep, and four square arpents have already been cleared. Is is bordered on either side by the lots of Gilbert Guilleman dit Duvaillars, former surgeon of the Carignan Regment, and Pierre Bourgery. On this same occasion, for the price of 85 livres, he also purchases a lot of one square half-arpent on which is situated a "barn which is found built there."] The deed is signed before the notary Thomas Frerot and it is followed by the sale of two or three lots from that same farm. His business transactions still leave him some time to do some socializing.
In fact, visiting a fille du roi, living with the Sisters of the Congregation, takes some of his time. Her name is Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and of Jeanne Godreau, native of the parish St Marguerite in the [western port] city of La Rochelle [France].
On 10 Feb, 1671, several months before the arrival of a new ship carrying eligible young women, Colbert writes to Talon, informing him:
I have also ordered that you be sent certification of the places where the girls are from, which will clearly make known that they are free and of marriageable state.
Jeanne Petit, the daughter of Jean Petit and Jeanne Gaudreau, in our family genealogy, was one of these "Daughters of the King". Born in1656, she was from the parish of Ste Marguerite in the town of LaRochelle, in the historic province of Aunis on the west coast of France. Possibly she was from a poor family but both she and her parents saw an opportunity for her to better herself through the king's dowry, or perhaps she was an orphan as some of the young women were. During the year 1671, Jeanne was one of 125 women to make the voyage across the Atlantic, and was among the 19 who went to the Montreal region. After her arrival in Quebec on the ship L'Esperance, Jeanne likely was taken in under the protectorship of the Montreal-based Sisters of the Congregation of Notre-Dame (who had arrived in 1653 under Soeur Marguerite Bourgeoys), until a prospective husband might propose to her. It is unlikely that the Ursuline Nuns (who had arrived in 1636 and were under the direction of Soeur Marie Guyard de Incarnation) cared for her since they were based in Quebec City.
Francois must have met Jeanne during this period and developed a love interest in her because on Wednesday, 21 Sep 1692, a marriage contract was drawn up between the two of them by the notary, Thomas Frerot. This was done the day before he exchanged his farm at St Ours for the one in Boucherville. It becomes apparent that Francois met and courted Jeanne, proposed marriage to her, had the contract drawn up, and then made the exchange of farms with the intent of settling in Boucherville with his future bride. The unusual aspect of their engagement is that when the filles du roi arrived in Quebec and were allowed to disembark in groups at Quebec City, Trois Rivieres, and Montreal, they were normally married within two weeks. This quick matrimonial process occurred because the women would be taken during that period to a hall where they could be observed and addressed by the soldiers or habitants. The filles du roi however, would question the men as to whether they had land, if any of it had been cleared, and if they owned livestock. The women held the upper hand and made the final decision as to whether they would consent to marriage. Since Jeanne was born in 1656 and arrived in 1671, but did not become engaged until Sep 1672, one might speculate that she was sheltered by the nuns for at least a nine month period until she turned 16.
The original marriage contract is on file in the Judicial Archives of Montreal and reads in French (complete with spelling errors):
[Signatures or the marks of the persons in attendance who are named above appear at the bottom of the document. Francois initially signs his name simply as "Laderoute" but draws a line through it and then writes
"Francois Seguin."]
One month and ten days following the notarization of the marriage contract (similar to a marriage license application and a promise to marry), the wedding day arrives. Seven years have passed since Francois first landed in Nouvelle France as a soldier with the Carignan Regiment. On 31 Oct 1672, Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, the son of Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu, marries Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and Jeanne Gaudreau. The ceremony is performed by a
missionary priest, Fr Pierre de Caumont, at Ste Famille (Holy Family) parish in Boucherville, Quebec. According to Laforest, typically when a filles du roi would marry, "...the newly married couple was given 50 livres to buy provisions, plus an ox and a cow, two pigs, a pair of chickens, two barrels of salt meat, and 11 crowns of money. This was supposed to give the newlyweds a start. Together this couple of Francois and Jeanne forms Generation II of the Seguin family line.
The parish register of Ste Famille carries the marriage entry:
In the year of Our Lord, 1672, the 3lst of the month of October, after the proclamation of banns during three feast days at the celebration of the parish mass, having met no impediments, Pierre de Caumont, a missionary priest doing curial functions at Boucherville, after having done the necessary requests and interrogations to Francois Seguin, inhabitant of Boucherville, son of Laurent Seguin and of Marie Massieu, parish of Dombre in Picardie, diocese of Beauvais, and to Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and of Jeanne Gaudreau, Ste Marguerite parish, town and diocese of LaRochelle, after having received their mutual consent, I, Pierre de Caumont, a missionary priest, married them in
presence of known witnesses.
/s/ Boucher, Remy, Jean la Fond
[The signatures of three witnesses who are present - Boucher, Remy, and Jean la Fond - appear at the bottom of the document. Seigneur Pierre Boucher for whom Boucherville is named and his wife, Jeanne Crevier, are notable witnesses to the ceremony, and shows the onsideration he had for Francois.]
On 25 Jan 1673, Francois sold the land he had acquired from Pierre Chaperon to Francois Senecal, a servant of seigneur Boucher. On this farm was "a house not completed." On 4 Apr 1673, Seigneur Boucher listed the 38 land grantees and Francois figured among them. He lived on a piece of land of 50 arpents (2 x 25 mentioned earlier), flanked by the lands of Jacques Menard and Pierre Martin. On 2 Jun 1675, Francois leased from Francois Pillet "a four year old brown cow valued at 60 lvres, which required Francois to feed the cow and any offspring and to pay Mr Pillet 12 livres per year. In the census of 1681, Francois declares his occupation to be a weaver, and with his wife, gives the names and ages of their first four children. On 10 Oct 1683, he leased a cow belonging to Denis Veronneau. On 24 Nov 1698, Francois sold his concession of 50 arpents [with a poor building upon it] to Jean Baptiste Lamoureux for 850 livres. Apparently immediate payment was made in 400 livres in playing card money, 200 in assorted merchandise, and 60 by the value of 20 minots of wheat. The remainder was due on the next feast of St Jean Baptiste, 24 Jun 1699. (The feast of St Jean Baptiste must have been a major holiday then even as it is today in Quebec.) On 15 Apr 1700, Francois and Jeanne are granted by Madame de la Valtrie the privilege of living on a strip of wooded land on the Ile Grosbois, along the channel. It is two arpents wide and deep [as far as the tip of the island, across from l'ile aux Raisins.] Francois, in addition to giving two work days each autumn, was required to take care of the donor's two cows. He and Jeanne lived together on this land until death. Francois originally was thought to have died 9 May 1704 in Montreal and buried on 10 May 1704 under the name of Pierre Seguin. Later research however, disclosed that marriage contracts of his daughter, Marie Madeleine, to Antoine Marie dit Ste Marie on 20 Nov 1700 (when Francois is shown as absent due to health reasons), and daughter, Marie Jeanne, to Joseph Robidou on 10 Oct 1701 (when Jeanne Petit is listed as a widow) prove that he did not die in 1704, but rather in the period of 20 Nov 1700 - 10 Oct 1701. His place of burial is unknown.
On 19 Mar 1713, Jeanne gave the concession of the Ile Grosbois, which she and Francois had originally received in Apr 1700, to Marie Anne Margane, the widow of Ignace Boucher. Jeanne then moved to Lachenaie to live with the third oldest of her children, Francois, who was 35 years old and married to Marie Louise Feuillon. Jeanne died on Sunday, 29 Mar 1733, and was buried in Longueuil, a community on the east side of Montreal.
On an interesting note, the author, Thomas J. Laforest, states in his book, Our French-Canadian Ancestors (Volume XXV):
When Pierre de Saint-Ours, former officer of the Carignan Regiment, drew up his will in 1704, he bequeathed "in case of death" 400 livres to the soldiers whom he had previously commanded. The name of Francois was mentioned in the list of beneficiaries. The seigneur died in 1724. [It is apparent that Saint-Ours was unaware of Francois' death which had already occurred around 1701.]
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation: Habitant, 1672.
Raid on Deerfield: The Many Stories of 1704
This is a great website translating what happened from beggining to end.
Francois Seguin-Jeanne Petit
Famille de FRANÇOIS SÉGUIN et de JEANNE PETIT
( ancêtres de la plupart des Séguin d’Amérique )
François Séguin Jeanne Petit
(fils de Laurent et Marie Massieu) (fille de Jean et Jeanne Gaudreau)
n 04-07-1644 Saint-Aubin-en-Bray n vers 1656 La Rochelle
Picardie, (Oise) Aunis (Charente-Maritime)
d «acte de décès introuvable» d 30-03-1733 Longueuil QC
m 31-10-1672 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
cm 21-09-1672 notaire Frérot
Enfants :
1. Françoise
n et b 01-11-1674 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 19 s 20-05-1751 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
m 08-02-1694 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Charles Patenaude (Nicolas & Marguerite Breton)
2. Marie-Madeleine
n et b 16-08-1676 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 25 s 26-05-1753 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
m 20-11-1700 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
c Antoine Marie dit Ste-Marie (Louis & Mathurine Goard)
m 07-01-1704 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
c François Achin (André & Françoise Piéton)
3. François
n 03-07-1678 Boucherville QC
b 03-07-1678 Pointe-aux-Trembles QC (L’Enfant-Jésus)
s 06-02-1727 Terrebonne QC (St-Louis-de-André)
m 22-02-1702 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Marie-Louise Filion/Feuillon (Michel & Louise Bercier)
4. Marie-Jeanne
n 09 b 11-08-1680 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 20 s 21-12-1749 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
m 10-10-1701 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
c Joseph Robidou dit Lespagnol (André & Jeanne Leduc/Denot)
5. Pierre
n 24 b 25-08-1682 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
s 09-11-1760 Mascouche QC (St-Henri)
m 04-02-1704 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Barbe Filion/Feuillon (Michel & Louise Bercier)
6. Simon
n et b 24-09-1684 Pointe-aux-Trembles QC (L’Enfant-Jésus)
s 29-03-1758 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
m 09-11-1706 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Marie Bau dit Lalouette (Jean & Etiennette Loré)
m 11-11-1715 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Madeleine-Deborah Cole (Joseph & Marie-Catherine Serré)
7. Catherine
n 19 b 20-11-1686 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 16 s 17-01-1688 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
8. Jean-Baptiste
n 10 b 12-11-1688 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 13 s 14-05-1728 Montréal QC (Notre-Dame)
m 07-06-1710 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
cm 07-06-1710 notaite Tailhandier
c Geneviève Barbeau dit Boidoré (Jean & Marie De Noyon)
9. Geneviève
n et b 09-04-1691 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 16 s 17-07-1691 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
10. Joseph
n 10 b 11-08-1692 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d et s 30-08-1692 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
11. Joseph
n et b 13-09-1694 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d et s 29-04-1753 Détroit MI (Ste-Anne)
m 12-04-1723 Détroit MI (Ste-Anne)
c Françoise Sauvage (Jacques & Marie-Catherine Jean/Vien)
Abréviations :
b baptême
c conjoint, conjointe
cm contrat de mariage
d décès
m mariage
n naissance
s sépulture
St Saint
Ste Sainte
1. 2. 3. 4. (etc.) enfants
(...&...) noms des parents
MI Michigan
QC Québec
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( ancêtres de la plupart des Séguin d’Amérique )
François Séguin Jeanne Petit
(fils de Laurent et Marie Massieu) (fille de Jean et Jeanne Gaudreau)
n 04-07-1644 Saint-Aubin-en-Bray n vers 1656 La Rochelle
Picardie, (Oise) Aunis (Charente-Maritime)
d «acte de décès introuvable» d 30-03-1733 Longueuil QC
m 31-10-1672 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
cm 21-09-1672 notaire Frérot
Enfants :
1. Françoise
n et b 01-11-1674 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 19 s 20-05-1751 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
m 08-02-1694 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Charles Patenaude (Nicolas & Marguerite Breton)
2. Marie-Madeleine
n et b 16-08-1676 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 25 s 26-05-1753 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
m 20-11-1700 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
c Antoine Marie dit Ste-Marie (Louis & Mathurine Goard)
m 07-01-1704 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
c François Achin (André & Françoise Piéton)
3. François
n 03-07-1678 Boucherville QC
b 03-07-1678 Pointe-aux-Trembles QC (L’Enfant-Jésus)
s 06-02-1727 Terrebonne QC (St-Louis-de-André)
m 22-02-1702 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Marie-Louise Filion/Feuillon (Michel & Louise Bercier)
4. Marie-Jeanne
n 09 b 11-08-1680 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 20 s 21-12-1749 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
m 10-10-1701 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)
c Joseph Robidou dit Lespagnol (André & Jeanne Leduc/Denot)
5. Pierre
n 24 b 25-08-1682 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
s 09-11-1760 Mascouche QC (St-Henri)
m 04-02-1704 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Barbe Filion/Feuillon (Michel & Louise Bercier)
6. Simon
n et b 24-09-1684 Pointe-aux-Trembles QC (L’Enfant-Jésus)
s 29-03-1758 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
m 09-11-1706 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Marie Bau dit Lalouette (Jean & Etiennette Loré)
m 11-11-1715 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
c Madeleine-Deborah Cole (Joseph & Marie-Catherine Serré)
7. Catherine
n 19 b 20-11-1686 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 16 s 17-01-1688 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
8. Jean-Baptiste
n 10 b 12-11-1688 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 13 s 14-05-1728 Montréal QC (Notre-Dame)
m 07-06-1710 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
cm 07-06-1710 notaite Tailhandier
c Geneviève Barbeau dit Boidoré (Jean & Marie De Noyon)
9. Geneviève
n et b 09-04-1691 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d 16 s 17-07-1691 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
10. Joseph
n 10 b 11-08-1692 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d et s 30-08-1692 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
11. Joseph
n et b 13-09-1694 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)
d et s 29-04-1753 Détroit MI (Ste-Anne)
m 12-04-1723 Détroit MI (Ste-Anne)
c Françoise Sauvage (Jacques & Marie-Catherine Jean/Vien)
Abréviations :
b baptême
c conjoint, conjointe
cm contrat de mariage
d décès
m mariage
n naissance
s sépulture
St Saint
Ste Sainte
1. 2. 3. 4. (etc.) enfants
(...&...) noms des parents
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My direct Seguin Line
This is my direct Seguin Line broken down:
Isaie Seguin (Isaac) Great Grandfather
Married Mary Rouleau (Rollo)
Guillaume Julien Seguin (GG Grandfather)
Married Angele Andre St. Amant
Guillaume Amable Dit Laderoute Seguin (GGG Grandfather)
Married Josette Cadieux
Guillaume Seguin (GGGG Grandfather)
Married Marie Josephte Rouleau
Louis Seguin Laderoute (GGGGG Grandfather)
born: 8APR1712 Boucherville, Quebec
died: 13JUL1763 OKA, Deux Montagnes, Quebec
Married Marie Ann Raizenne
Jean Baptiste Seguin (GGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 10NOV1688 Boucherville, Quebec
died: 13MAY1725 Montreal, Quebec
Married Genevieve Barbeau
Francoise Seguin-Laderoute (GGGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 4JUL1644 St. Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France
died: 9MAY1704 Montreal, Quebec
Married Jean Francoise Petit
Laurent Seguin (GGGGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 1621 Cuigny En Bray, Beauvis, Picardi, France
died: 25OCT1650 Guigy En Bray, Beauvis, Picardi, France
Married Marie Massieu
Isaie Seguin (Isaac) Great Grandfather
Married Mary Rouleau (Rollo)
Guillaume Julien Seguin (GG Grandfather)
Married Angele Andre St. Amant
Guillaume Amable Dit Laderoute Seguin (GGG Grandfather)
Married Josette Cadieux
Guillaume Seguin (GGGG Grandfather)
Married Marie Josephte Rouleau
Louis Seguin Laderoute (GGGGG Grandfather)
born: 8APR1712 Boucherville, Quebec
died: 13JUL1763 OKA, Deux Montagnes, Quebec
Married Marie Ann Raizenne
Jean Baptiste Seguin (GGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 10NOV1688 Boucherville, Quebec
died: 13MAY1725 Montreal, Quebec
Married Genevieve Barbeau
Francoise Seguin-Laderoute (GGGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 4JUL1644 St. Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France
died: 9MAY1704 Montreal, Quebec
Married Jean Francoise Petit
Laurent Seguin (GGGGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 1621 Cuigny En Bray, Beauvis, Picardi, France
died: 25OCT1650 Guigy En Bray, Beauvis, Picardi, France
Married Marie Massieu
More Rouleau/Seguin straightening
Just got this from Valeda (my great aunt) and this is a much clearer picture.
I think I've got this straight or straighter -
Mary Rollo was married to _____Facto/Facteau - children were Minnie and Eva.
Now, I'm not sure they were the products of the marriage or were
_____Facto/facteau kids from a
previous marriage. I tend to think they were the products of the
marriage because my grandmother was being taken care of by aunt
Minnie when she became very ill. And, she always called her MA but
then all the kids called her MA, whether they were her biological
kids or step kids. to go on.......
__________Facto Died.
Meanwhile, Isaac was married to Melinda Rouleau and had the 5 kids together.
Melinda died.
Mary Rollo married Isaac,and he brought his boys to the marriage;
Mary had Minnie and Eva, the new family of boys and produced the new
group, Henry, Edmund, Lela and Gertrude and maybe one or two that
died as children.
(Minnie Facteau married Joseph Seguin, one of Isaac's and Melinda's
kids) I knew them very well because we spent our summer in NY. My
mother always said my sister married my brother just to add to the
confusion. When she started to explain, we always through our hands
in the air and said, just too confusing. Now, everyone is gone so
there is no one to ask.
Just for your info. Henry, son of Isaac and Mary married my father's
sister, Lillian Houle. All the kids look alike because of the merger
of the same families. Twins June and Joyce are my age and we were
pretty close. to go on.........
Meanwhile, Isaac dies.
Mary marries ________LaBarge - no kids - too old - I don't remember
him but my sister does.
Now we are wondering if Melinda and Mary were sisters because Rollo
translates to french as Rouleau.
Also, reading the stuff you sent, we have my grandmother on my
father's side as being a Vondell -
wow - such confusion.
I think I've got this straight or straighter -
Mary Rollo was married to _____Facto/Facteau - children were Minnie and Eva.
Now, I'm not sure they were the products of the marriage or were
_____Facto/facteau kids from a
previous marriage. I tend to think they were the products of the
marriage because my grandmother was being taken care of by aunt
Minnie when she became very ill. And, she always called her MA but
then all the kids called her MA, whether they were her biological
kids or step kids. to go on.......
__________Facto Died.
Meanwhile, Isaac was married to Melinda Rouleau and had the 5 kids together.
Melinda died.
Mary Rollo married Isaac,and he brought his boys to the marriage;
Mary had Minnie and Eva, the new family of boys and produced the new
group, Henry, Edmund, Lela and Gertrude and maybe one or two that
died as children.
(Minnie Facteau married Joseph Seguin, one of Isaac's and Melinda's
kids) I knew them very well because we spent our summer in NY. My
mother always said my sister married my brother just to add to the
confusion. When she started to explain, we always through our hands
in the air and said, just too confusing. Now, everyone is gone so
there is no one to ask.
Just for your info. Henry, son of Isaac and Mary married my father's
sister, Lillian Houle. All the kids look alike because of the merger
of the same families. Twins June and Joyce are my age and we were
pretty close. to go on.........
Meanwhile, Isaac dies.
Mary marries ________LaBarge - no kids - too old - I don't remember
him but my sister does.
Now we are wondering if Melinda and Mary were sisters because Rollo
translates to french as Rouleau.
Also, reading the stuff you sent, we have my grandmother on my
father's side as being a Vondell -
wow - such confusion.
Monday, December 10, 2007
Mary Rollo-From Valeda
My grandmother: Mary ROLLO was born April 4, 1865 in Moers Fork, NY in Clinton County -died in May, 1950 - her parents were Charles Rollo and Josephine N. (Nephew) Rollo. My uncle Henry was born a mear two months after the marriage. So....ROLLO was her maiden name
- The Rouleau you refer to was Isaac's (my grandfather) first wife named Melinda Rouleau - she died at age 31 - Melinda Rouleau Seguin and Isaac had five children:
Joseph
(John) Edward
Alfred
(Joseph) Albert
Hermaline - lived to age 30
I knew all four men and visited them often as did they vist us - Edward, Alfred, Albert all lived near us.
Joseph lived in NY.
Isaac married my grandmother, Mary. She took in the boys and they had another 5 children.
Mary married a third time to LaBarge - no kids with this marriage/my brother said THEY WERE TOO OLD. I say, finally.
I do know that she was married to ??????????? and had children with 'whoever' - maybe a Fecteau or facteau - I think three girls. Not sure but sounds sort of familiar. Growing up, I could never get step or half siblings right. My mother went over and over it again & again - I think only she understood the family. I will have to ask my sister-in-law - the one in the nursing home who is my storehouse of information.
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Hi again - I think Mary's second husband was named FACTO - Minnie,
who married my uncle Joe, came with a father who married Mary (uncle
Joe was Isaac and Melinda's son) - Joe and Minnie were not related
but were step siblings - I am not sure if Mary had any children with
the Facto Husband - I do know that Minnie's maiden name was Facto -
she may have had other siblings - the ones who lived in Canada - It
all got really muddled when I was young because my mother called Joe
her brother and Minnie her sister/joe being her half brother and
Minnie being her step sister. Are you confused at this writing?
ISAAC SEGUIN - First marriage was to Melinda Rouleau - 5 kids
Second " was to Mary Rollo - 5 kids
MARY ROLLO - First - marriage was to Isaac Seguin - 5 kids
plus the 5 step kids
Second - " was to ???
Facto ?? kids plus ?? step kids
Third - " was to ???
LaBarge NO KIDS
- The Rouleau you refer to was Isaac's (my grandfather) first wife named Melinda Rouleau - she died at age 31 - Melinda Rouleau Seguin and Isaac had five children:
Joseph
(John) Edward
Alfred
(Joseph) Albert
Hermaline - lived to age 30
I knew all four men and visited them often as did they vist us - Edward, Alfred, Albert all lived near us.
Joseph lived in NY.
Isaac married my grandmother, Mary. She took in the boys and they had another 5 children.
Mary married a third time to LaBarge - no kids with this marriage/my brother said THEY WERE TOO OLD. I say, finally.
I do know that she was married to ??????????? and had children with 'whoever' - maybe a Fecteau or facteau - I think three girls. Not sure but sounds sort of familiar. Growing up, I could never get step or half siblings right. My mother went over and over it again & again - I think only she understood the family. I will have to ask my sister-in-law - the one in the nursing home who is my storehouse of information.
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Hi again - I think Mary's second husband was named FACTO - Minnie,
who married my uncle Joe, came with a father who married Mary (uncle
Joe was Isaac and Melinda's son) - Joe and Minnie were not related
but were step siblings - I am not sure if Mary had any children with
the Facto Husband - I do know that Minnie's maiden name was Facto -
she may have had other siblings - the ones who lived in Canada - It
all got really muddled when I was young because my mother called Joe
her brother and Minnie her sister/joe being her half brother and
Minnie being her step sister. Are you confused at this writing?
ISAAC SEGUIN - First marriage was to Melinda Rouleau - 5 kids
Second " was to Mary Rollo - 5 kids
MARY ROLLO - First - marriage was to Isaac Seguin - 5 kids
plus the 5 step kids
Second - " was to ???
Facto ?? kids plus ?? step kids
Third - " was to ???
LaBarge NO KIDS
Sunday, December 09, 2007
Angele Andre St. Amant married Guillaume Julien Seguin
Angele born 1822 unknown
Guillaume Julien Seguin born 1857 Curran, Ont
Married: August 1849 Coteau du Lac, Que.
Guillaume Julien Seguin born 1857 Curran, Ont
Married: August 1849 Coteau du Lac, Que.
Isaie Seguin
Isaïe Séguin (parents:Guillaume Julien & Angèle André)
n 01-11-1857 Curran ON
Mélindée Rouleau (parents:Jean-Bapt & Emélie Leclair)
n (?...)
m 13-10-1884 St-Isidore de Prescott ON
Children:
1. Willie M ary Jane
n & b 30-05-1885 St-Isidore de Prescott ON
2. Henry
m 12-06-1916 Ellenburg,NY
c Lilian Houle (Frank & Percy Vosestell)
3. Edward
m 17-04-1922 Ellenburg NY
c Albina Monette (John & Addie Comens)
n=born; c=spouse
Cette information est tirée du / This information comes from
Dictionnaire généalogique de l’Association des Séguin d’Amérique. If you have any missing information, please tell us!
Renseignements sur l’Association / Information on the Association : www.lesseguindamerique.ca .
«Force et Générosité» dans notre Amitié / «Force and Generosity» in our Friendship,
Raymond-J. Séguin #003, Association des Séguin d'Amérique
Revised Family Tree of Isaïe Séguin
Époux : Isaac Isaie Séguin #2743
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Naissance: 1 Nov 1857 à Curran, ON (St-Luc)
Décès: 24 sep 1910 à Ellenburg NY
Père : Guillaume Julien Séguin #256
Mère : Angèle André\St-Amant #257
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Épouse : Mélindée Rouleau #2752
Marié(e): 13 Oct 1884 à St-Isidore-de-Prescott, ON.
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Naissance: 5 oct 1864 à
Décès: 9 mai 1896 à Fitchburg, MA
Père : Jean-Baptiste Rouleau #2750
Mère : Emélie Leclair #2751
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F Enfant 1: Willie Mary Jane Séguin #46351
Naissance: 30 mai 1885 à St-Isidore-de-Prescott ON
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M Enfant 2: Joseph Séguin #49920
Naissance: 2 déc 1888 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: 0 ___ 1975 à
Conjoint[e] : Minnie Facteau #49921 n. 0 ___ 1887 d. 0 ___ 1950
Marié(e): 7 oct 1907 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 3: Edward Séguin #35413
Naissance: 29 déc 1890 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Albina Monette #35416
Marié(e): 17 avr 1922 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 4: Alfred Séguin #49922
Naissance: 22 fév 1892 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: 0 jun 1961 à Manchester, NH.
Conjoint[e] : Ethel Goodrich #49923
Marié(e): à
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M Enfant 5: Albert Séguin #49924
Naissance: 15 jan 1894 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: à
Conjoint[e] : Minnie Colburn #49925
Marié(e): à
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Épouse : Mary Rouleau #49928
Marié(e): 16 jan 1897 à West Boylton MA
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Naissance: 0 ___ 1865 à Ellenburg NY
Décès: 0 ___ 1950 à
Père : Charles Rouleau #49929
Mère : Delphine Neveu #49930
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M Enfant 1: Henry Séguin #1099
Naissance: 27 mar 1898 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Lillian Houle #1100
Marié(e): 12 Jun 1916 à Ellenburg, NY.
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F Enfant 2: Lina Victoria Séguin #49931
Naissance: 9 jan 1900 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 31 mar 1901 à Ellenburg, NY.
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F Enfant 3: Lela May Séguin #49932
Naissance: 7 mai 1902 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 13 oct 1971 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Harold Houle #49933
Marié(e): 20 oct 1919 à Ellenburg Depot, NY
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M Enfant 4: Edmund Séguin #49934
Naissance: 10 jul 1904 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 16 nov 1949 à Ellenburg NY
Conjoint[e] : Albina Monette #49935
Marié(e): 17 avr 1922 à Ellenburg, NY. (voir note 1)
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F Enfant 5: Gertrude Séguin #49938
Naissance: 1 avr 1907 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 0 fév 1993 à Coeur d'Alene OH
Conjoint[e] : Edward Truchon #49939
Marié(e): 26 déc 1927 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 6: Wilfred Séguin #49971
Naissance: 1908 à Ellenburg NY
Décès: 0 ___ 1919 à Ellenburg NY
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Note 1 on retrace un mariage à Mooers NY le 12 avril 1922
Isaac Seguin/Sequin had at least four children between 1888 and 1894 in Fitchburg, MA :Joseph b. 7 Dec 1888 - Oct 1975 Ellenbugh Depot, NY(social security death index); John Edward 28 Dec 1890;Alfred 22 Feb 1892 -16 June 1966 Manchester, NH (family information) and Joseph Albert b.15 Jan 1894.
Melinda died 9 May 1896 from a complication of pregency and he re-married the Mary (Facto/Facteau) Rouleau 16 Jan 1897 in West Boylston, MA. It was a second marriage for both. Mary was born in Ellenburg, NY according to their marriage record. A son Henry was born to the couple 27 March 1898 in Fitchburg, MA.
By 1900 the family is out in Clinton Co, NY where Mary and Isaac had several other children: Lessie b. June 1900 according to 1900 census, Lela b. abt 1902 (1910 census) who marries Harold Houle, Edmaund b abt 1905 and Gertrude b abt 1907.
Isaac seems to have died between 1910 and 1920 as he isn't with Mary on the 1920 census. Some of the boys signed up for the World War I draft and were living in Ellensburg in 1917, but by 1920 Mary, Gertrude, Edmund, Lela and her husband are in Easthampton, MA and also Isaac's son Alfred, clled Fred and his future wife, Ethel May Goodrich.
I hope this helps a little.
Kay Sheldon
n 01-11-1857 Curran ON
Mélindée Rouleau (parents:Jean-Bapt & Emélie Leclair)
n (?...)
m 13-10-1884 St-Isidore de Prescott ON
Children:
1. Willie M ary Jane
n & b 30-05-1885 St-Isidore de Prescott ON
2. Henry
m 12-06-1916 Ellenburg,NY
c Lilian Houle (Frank & Percy Vosestell)
3. Edward
m 17-04-1922 Ellenburg NY
c Albina Monette (John & Addie Comens)
n=born; c=spouse
Cette information est tirée du / This information comes from
Dictionnaire généalogique de l’Association des Séguin d’Amérique. If you have any missing information, please tell us!
Renseignements sur l’Association / Information on the Association : www.lesseguindamerique.ca .
«Force et Générosité» dans notre Amitié / «Force and Generosity» in our Friendship,
Raymond-J. Séguin #003, Association des Séguin d'Amérique
Revised Family Tree of Isaïe Séguin
Époux : Isaac Isaie Séguin #2743
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Naissance: 1 Nov 1857 à Curran, ON (St-Luc)
Décès: 24 sep 1910 à Ellenburg NY
Père : Guillaume Julien Séguin #256
Mère : Angèle André\St-Amant #257
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Épouse : Mélindée Rouleau #2752
Marié(e): 13 Oct 1884 à St-Isidore-de-Prescott, ON.
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Naissance: 5 oct 1864 à
Décès: 9 mai 1896 à Fitchburg, MA
Père : Jean-Baptiste Rouleau #2750
Mère : Emélie Leclair #2751
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F Enfant 1: Willie Mary Jane Séguin #46351
Naissance: 30 mai 1885 à St-Isidore-de-Prescott ON
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M Enfant 2: Joseph Séguin #49920
Naissance: 2 déc 1888 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: 0 ___ 1975 à
Conjoint[e] : Minnie Facteau #49921 n. 0 ___ 1887 d. 0 ___ 1950
Marié(e): 7 oct 1907 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 3: Edward Séguin #35413
Naissance: 29 déc 1890 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Albina Monette #35416
Marié(e): 17 avr 1922 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 4: Alfred Séguin #49922
Naissance: 22 fév 1892 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: 0 jun 1961 à Manchester, NH.
Conjoint[e] : Ethel Goodrich #49923
Marié(e): à
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M Enfant 5: Albert Séguin #49924
Naissance: 15 jan 1894 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: à
Conjoint[e] : Minnie Colburn #49925
Marié(e): à
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Épouse : Mary Rouleau #49928
Marié(e): 16 jan 1897 à West Boylton MA
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Naissance: 0 ___ 1865 à Ellenburg NY
Décès: 0 ___ 1950 à
Père : Charles Rouleau #49929
Mère : Delphine Neveu #49930
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M Enfant 1: Henry Séguin #1099
Naissance: 27 mar 1898 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Lillian Houle #1100
Marié(e): 12 Jun 1916 à Ellenburg, NY.
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F Enfant 2: Lina Victoria Séguin #49931
Naissance: 9 jan 1900 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 31 mar 1901 à Ellenburg, NY.
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F Enfant 3: Lela May Séguin #49932
Naissance: 7 mai 1902 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 13 oct 1971 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Harold Houle #49933
Marié(e): 20 oct 1919 à Ellenburg Depot, NY
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M Enfant 4: Edmund Séguin #49934
Naissance: 10 jul 1904 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 16 nov 1949 à Ellenburg NY
Conjoint[e] : Albina Monette #49935
Marié(e): 17 avr 1922 à Ellenburg, NY. (voir note 1)
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F Enfant 5: Gertrude Séguin #49938
Naissance: 1 avr 1907 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 0 fév 1993 à Coeur d'Alene OH
Conjoint[e] : Edward Truchon #49939
Marié(e): 26 déc 1927 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 6: Wilfred Séguin #49971
Naissance: 1908 à Ellenburg NY
Décès: 0 ___ 1919 à Ellenburg NY
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Note 1 on retrace un mariage à Mooers NY le 12 avril 1922
Isaac Seguin/Sequin had at least four children between 1888 and 1894 in Fitchburg, MA :Joseph b. 7 Dec 1888 - Oct 1975 Ellenbugh Depot, NY(social security death index); John Edward 28 Dec 1890;Alfred 22 Feb 1892 -16 June 1966 Manchester, NH (family information) and Joseph Albert b.15 Jan 1894.
Melinda died 9 May 1896 from a complication of pregency and he re-married the Mary (Facto/Facteau) Rouleau 16 Jan 1897 in West Boylston, MA. It was a second marriage for both. Mary was born in Ellenburg, NY according to their marriage record. A son Henry was born to the couple 27 March 1898 in Fitchburg, MA.
By 1900 the family is out in Clinton Co, NY where Mary and Isaac had several other children: Lessie b. June 1900 according to 1900 census, Lela b. abt 1902 (1910 census) who marries Harold Houle, Edmaund b abt 1905 and Gertrude b abt 1907.
Isaac seems to have died between 1910 and 1920 as he isn't with Mary on the 1920 census. Some of the boys signed up for the World War I draft and were living in Ellensburg in 1917, but by 1920 Mary, Gertrude, Edmund, Lela and her husband are in Easthampton, MA and also Isaac's son Alfred, clled Fred and his future wife, Ethel May Goodrich.
I hope this helps a little.
Kay Sheldon
Saturday, December 08, 2007
Guillaume Julien Seguin
Found on FamilySearch.org
Other Information:
Birth Year <1849>
Birthplace Q
Age 32
Occupation Cultivateur
Marital Status M
Ethnic Origin French
Head of Household Guillaume SEGUIN
Religion Catholique
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Source Information:
Census Place Ste-Marthe, Vaudreuil, Quebec
Family History Library Film 1375843
NA Film Number C-13207
District 75
Sub-district C
Division 1
Page Number 15
Household Number 99
Other Information:
Birth Year <1849>
Birthplace Q
Age 32
Occupation Cultivateur
Marital Status M
Ethnic Origin French
Head of Household Guillaume SEGUIN
Religion Catholique
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Source Information:
Census Place Ste-Marthe, Vaudreuil, Quebec
Family History Library Film 1375843
NA Film Number C-13207
District 75
Sub-district C
Division 1
Page Number 15
Household Number 99
SEGUIN
Source: The King's daughters among our Ancestors pps 477-478
Jeanne Petit daughter of the late Jean and the Late Jeanne Gaudrau of the parish of Ste Marguerite, LaRochelle, Aunis, France, she was born about 1656 and arrived in 1672. Died at Longueuil 29 March 1733. Married at Boucherville 31 Oct 1672 (Ct 21-09 Frerot) to Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, soldier with the compagnie St Ours of the Regiment de Carignan, arriving 12 Sep 1665, weaver, bpt 4 Jul 1644, son of Laurent and Marie Massieu of Guigny-en-Bray, Beauvais, Picardie, (Oise), France. died at Hotel Dieu of Montreal 9 May 1704. Established at Boucherville, 11 children.
1. Francoise b & bpt 1 Nov 1674 Boucherville; m Boucherville 8 Feb 1694 (Ct 7 Maugue) to Charles Patenaude or Paternostre, son of Nicolas and Marguerite Breton (Step-sister of King's Daughter Marie Saint Vie) 10 ch
2. Marie Madeleine dite Marie b & bpt 16 Aug 1676 Boucherville, md at Longueuil 20 Nov 1700 by contract before notary Raimbault, Sr. to Antoine Marie, son of Louis and King's Daughter Mathurine Goard; no children; widowed 23 Feb 1703. Second md at Longueuil 7 Jan 1704 (Ct 30-13-1703 Adhemar) to Francois Achin, son of Andre and King's Dau Fran
acoie Pieton; 6 ch
3. Jeanne b 9 Aug 1680, bpt 11 Aug Boucherville, md at Longueuil 10 Oct 1701 (Ct 09 Pierre Raimbault) to Joseph Robidou, son of Andre and King's daughter Jeanne Denot; 11 Ch
4. Pierre, b 24 Aug 1682 Boucherville; bpt 25 Aug Pointe aux Trembles md Boucherville 4 Feb 1704 (Ct 02 Tailhandier) to Barbe Feuillon, widow of Jean Baptiste Leber, daughter of Michel and King's daughter Louise Berchier; 9 ch
5. Simon b Boucherville bpt 24 Sep 1684 Pointe aux Trembles md ( nov 1706 Boucherville (Ct 09 Tailhandier) to Marie Bau, daughter of Jean and King's Daughter Etiennette Lroet; 1 child; widowed 9 June 1714. Second marriage at Boucherville 11 Nov 1715 (Ct 10 Tailhandier) to Madeleine Coal or COlle, daughter of Joseph and Sarah Randall; 6 children
6. Catherine bpt 20 Nov 1686 Boucherville d 16 Jan 1688
7. Jean Baptiste b 10 Nov 1688; bpt 12 Nov Boucherville; died at Hotel Dieu fo Motnreal 13 May 1728; married at Boucherville 7 Jun 1710 (Ct 07 Tailhandier) to Genevieve Barbeau, daughter of Jean and Marie De Noyon; 10 children
8. Genevieve b & bpt 9 Apr 1691 Boucherville; d 16 Jul 1691
9. Joseph b 10 Aug 1692 bpt 11 Aug Boucherville d 30 Aug 1692
10. Joseph b & bpt 13 Sep 1694 Boucherville; m Detroit 12 Apr 1723 to Marie Francoise Sauvage, daughter of Jacques and Marie Catherine Jean; 5 children
Third child was: Francois b Boucherville bpt 3 July 1678 Pointe aux Trembles m 22 Feb 1702 Boucherville to Marie Louise Feuillon, dau of Michel and King's dau Louise Bercier; 10 ch
Descendates of Jeanne Petit -pps478-479
(From dau Francoise Seguin md to Charles Patenaude)
Marie Madeleine Patenaude or Patenostre, bpt at Longueuil 3 Dec 1710; md at Longueuil 17 Nov 1732 to Joseph Lamoureaux, bpt at Boucherville 8 jan 1706, son of Adrien and Denise Veronneau;
Louis Lamoureux, md at Boucherville 22 Feb 1759 to Genevieve Vicnelet, dau of Nicolas and Genevieve Gareau;
Marie Josephte Lamoureux, md at Boucherville to Francois Hebert son of Antoine and Marie Anne Robert
Francois Hebert md St Constant, Laprairie, 26 Sep 1808 to Marie Genevieve Baudin, du of Pierre and Marie Genevieve Arcouet
Emerende Hebert, b. Laprairie in 1811 md St Constant, Laprairie, 24 Oct 1831 to Louis Bertrand, b 1798, son of Louis and Marguerite Lucas
Theophile Bertrand, b 1838, md St Antoine Abbe 16 Apr 1866 to Julienne Charland, dau of Jean Baptiste and Olvie Surprenant
Arthur Bertrand, bo 24 Aug 1881 St Antoine Abbe md at St Jean Bpatiste, Montreal 17 Oct 1904 to Catherine dite Katie Goyer, bo 17 Oct 1882, dau of Jules and Mary Kinge
Geroges Henri Bertrand, b 17 Nov 1909 Montreal; md St Vincent Ferrier, Montreal to Elsie Walsh, b 2 Jan 1912, dau of Joseph Patrick and Angeline Turgeon
Louise Kathleen Bertrand, b Sault au Recollet, Montreal d at Montreal 16 Jan 1965 to Frederick E Pomeroy, Jr. born in Salem, Mas, son of Frederick E and Idell Parker of Arlington Heights, Mass.
Louise is the author of the (now) 4 vol's of "The Kings' Daughters Among our Ancestors"
Jeanne Petit daughter of the late Jean and the Late Jeanne Gaudrau of the parish of Ste Marguerite, LaRochelle, Aunis, France, she was born about 1656 and arrived in 1672. Died at Longueuil 29 March 1733. Married at Boucherville 31 Oct 1672 (Ct 21-09 Frerot) to Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, soldier with the compagnie St Ours of the Regiment de Carignan, arriving 12 Sep 1665, weaver, bpt 4 Jul 1644, son of Laurent and Marie Massieu of Guigny-en-Bray, Beauvais, Picardie, (Oise), France. died at Hotel Dieu of Montreal 9 May 1704. Established at Boucherville, 11 children.
1. Francoise b & bpt 1 Nov 1674 Boucherville; m Boucherville 8 Feb 1694 (Ct 7 Maugue) to Charles Patenaude or Paternostre, son of Nicolas and Marguerite Breton (Step-sister of King's Daughter Marie Saint Vie) 10 ch
2. Marie Madeleine dite Marie b & bpt 16 Aug 1676 Boucherville, md at Longueuil 20 Nov 1700 by contract before notary Raimbault, Sr. to Antoine Marie, son of Louis and King's Daughter Mathurine Goard; no children; widowed 23 Feb 1703. Second md at Longueuil 7 Jan 1704 (Ct 30-13-1703 Adhemar) to Francois Achin, son of Andre and King's Dau Fran
acoie Pieton; 6 ch
3. Jeanne b 9 Aug 1680, bpt 11 Aug Boucherville, md at Longueuil 10 Oct 1701 (Ct 09 Pierre Raimbault) to Joseph Robidou, son of Andre and King's daughter Jeanne Denot; 11 Ch
4. Pierre, b 24 Aug 1682 Boucherville; bpt 25 Aug Pointe aux Trembles md Boucherville 4 Feb 1704 (Ct 02 Tailhandier) to Barbe Feuillon, widow of Jean Baptiste Leber, daughter of Michel and King's daughter Louise Berchier; 9 ch
5. Simon b Boucherville bpt 24 Sep 1684 Pointe aux Trembles md ( nov 1706 Boucherville (Ct 09 Tailhandier) to Marie Bau, daughter of Jean and King's Daughter Etiennette Lroet; 1 child; widowed 9 June 1714. Second marriage at Boucherville 11 Nov 1715 (Ct 10 Tailhandier) to Madeleine Coal or COlle, daughter of Joseph and Sarah Randall; 6 children
6. Catherine bpt 20 Nov 1686 Boucherville d 16 Jan 1688
7. Jean Baptiste b 10 Nov 1688; bpt 12 Nov Boucherville; died at Hotel Dieu fo Motnreal 13 May 1728; married at Boucherville 7 Jun 1710 (Ct 07 Tailhandier) to Genevieve Barbeau, daughter of Jean and Marie De Noyon; 10 children
8. Genevieve b & bpt 9 Apr 1691 Boucherville; d 16 Jul 1691
9. Joseph b 10 Aug 1692 bpt 11 Aug Boucherville d 30 Aug 1692
10. Joseph b & bpt 13 Sep 1694 Boucherville; m Detroit 12 Apr 1723 to Marie Francoise Sauvage, daughter of Jacques and Marie Catherine Jean; 5 children
Third child was: Francois b Boucherville bpt 3 July 1678 Pointe aux Trembles m 22 Feb 1702 Boucherville to Marie Louise Feuillon, dau of Michel and King's dau Louise Bercier; 10 ch
Descendates of Jeanne Petit -pps478-479
(From dau Francoise Seguin md to Charles Patenaude)
Marie Madeleine Patenaude or Patenostre, bpt at Longueuil 3 Dec 1710; md at Longueuil 17 Nov 1732 to Joseph Lamoureaux, bpt at Boucherville 8 jan 1706, son of Adrien and Denise Veronneau;
Louis Lamoureux, md at Boucherville 22 Feb 1759 to Genevieve Vicnelet, dau of Nicolas and Genevieve Gareau;
Marie Josephte Lamoureux, md at Boucherville to Francois Hebert son of Antoine and Marie Anne Robert
Francois Hebert md St Constant, Laprairie, 26 Sep 1808 to Marie Genevieve Baudin, du of Pierre and Marie Genevieve Arcouet
Emerende Hebert, b. Laprairie in 1811 md St Constant, Laprairie, 24 Oct 1831 to Louis Bertrand, b 1798, son of Louis and Marguerite Lucas
Theophile Bertrand, b 1838, md St Antoine Abbe 16 Apr 1866 to Julienne Charland, dau of Jean Baptiste and Olvie Surprenant
Arthur Bertrand, bo 24 Aug 1881 St Antoine Abbe md at St Jean Bpatiste, Montreal 17 Oct 1904 to Catherine dite Katie Goyer, bo 17 Oct 1882, dau of Jules and Mary Kinge
Geroges Henri Bertrand, b 17 Nov 1909 Montreal; md St Vincent Ferrier, Montreal to Elsie Walsh, b 2 Jan 1912, dau of Joseph Patrick and Angeline Turgeon
Louise Kathleen Bertrand, b Sault au Recollet, Montreal d at Montreal 16 Jan 1965 to Frederick E Pomeroy, Jr. born in Salem, Mas, son of Frederick E and Idell Parker of Arlington Heights, Mass.
Louise is the author of the (now) 4 vol's of "The Kings' Daughters Among our Ancestors"
Thursday, December 06, 2007
Daily Life on a 18th Century Homestead
Daily life on an 18th Century homestead
Stephen Hume, Vancouver Sun
Published: Thursday, December 29, 2005
MAPLETOWN, New York -- Life on the frontier into which Simon Fraser was born in 1776 seems hard by the comfortable standards of the 21st Century.
Yet it was not the nasty, brutish and short experience that our technocentric culture often assumes as a validation of its claim to inherent superiority over the backward past from which it arose.
We have a good idea of what things were like in the world that greeted young Simon thanks to researchers from the New York State Museum and the University of the State of New York who scoured the historical literature for visual descriptions by eyewitnesses.
Their 1989 study of land use and settlement patterns for the small region of up-state New York across the border from Bennington, Vermont, and right next to what was once Mapletown indicates that were we able to drop into Simon's landscape by time machine we would find large but self-sufficient families like his living in close harmony with each other and the great rhythms of the natural world.
The personal labour of these families met most of their needs -- and everyone in the family would participate. They built their own shelter, produced their own food, made their own clothes, cleared their fields, tilled them and harvested the crops by hand, dealt with their medical emergencies at home and entertained themselves.
Men like his father, Simon Sr., and his older brothers William, in his mid-20s, and Angus, in his late teens, did the heavy labour of clearing and tilling land, building structures, cutting firewood, splitting fence rails, making furniture and farm implements and supplementing the larder by hunting and fishing.
"At the age of 22 I could cut an acre in seven days but as a general average men would be from seven to 10 days, particularly if several worked together," wrote Levi Beardsley in Reminiscences, a frontier memoir of the late 1700s that was published in 1852.
Women like Fraser's mother Isabella and his older sisters Margaret, about 20, and Isabella, 14, kept kitchen gardens and orchards, prepared and preserved food, churned their own butter, made soap and candles, spun thread from flax and yarn from wool and then wove, knitted and sewed the family's clothes. Young Simon's other brothers and sisters would help in minding him and toddler Nancy, tend the livestock and chop firewood. At harvest, everyone would pitch in.
German surgeon J.F. Walmus, who marched through the country with the British army in 1777, took particular note of the settlers he encountered there after the battle:
"They were all in bare shirts, had nothing on their bodies but a shirt, vest, long linen trousers which extended to the shoe, no stockings -- powder horn, bullet bag, rum flask and musket. They were all beautifully built men, of very healthy appearance and handsome figure. . ."
So, while life on an 18th Century homestead could be hard and certainly had its occasional perils, it apparently also provided its bountiful rewards, too.
Still, the landscape in which Fraser's early personality took shape would seem barely inhabited to the citizens of today's North America, almost all of us jacked directly into the globalized neural networks of urban life through road grids, public transportation, electrical utilities and the ubiquitous, near-instantaneous communications systems of radio, satellite-based television, cellular telephones, digital data flows and the Internet.
Just visiting a neighbour could be a major expedition in Fraser's time. These days even the most rural inhabitants are seldom more than a few hours drive from town services and no more than a day's travel from some metropolis or other.
For people living in the township where Fraser spent the first eight years of his turbulent young life, most roads were slightly widened trails that to us would seem barely discernible grassy openings in the trees. In heavy rains they quickly became impassable. Swollen creeks flooded and boggy areas became muddy quagmires. The only paving was corduroy -- logs cut into uniform lengths and laid out to form a causeway over soft ground -- and it was temporary.
Occasionally these faint tracks through the hardwood forests that still covered most of eastern North America from the Atlantic to the grasslands of the Great Plains would be defined by a snake fence and then the traveller would soon emerge into the ever-expanding clearing around a farmhouse and its outbuildings.
To clear land, a settler would first strip out the underbrush and lop the lower limbs off trees, saving himself the work of trimming them later. The first trees would be cut and used to build a dwelling, then ground would be cleared for vegetable gardens, finally the forest would be clearcut by hand to create fields for crops and pasture for livestock. In each field, a few veteran trees would be left standing here and there to provide shade for animals in the hot summers.
Virtually all the contemporary travellers' accounts cited in The New York State Museum's land use survey from 1777 indicate houses built of logs and chinked with clay although there were clearly a few frame structures since military accounts record that when Lieutenant-Colonel Friedrich Baum, commander of the German mercenaries at the Battle of Bennington, was mortally wounded and taken from the field, he lay dying in just such a house.
But most homesteads would begin as crude log shanties with a packed earth floor, thrown up hastily to beat the arrival of winter, the logs often unpeeled, the roofs made from flattened sheets of bark from birch or elm trees laid over pole rafters. Later the logs might be squared with an adze. The floor replaced with half-rounds laid flat side up, the roof replaced with hand-split shakes or shingles.
Windows were small. Conserving heat in winter was an issue and since most people rose at dawn, spent most of the day outdoors and went to bed at dusk, interior light was less important than today. Glass was a rare commodity, difficult to transport and hence expensive, so windows were often covered with oiled paper or animal skins scraped parchment-thin.
Tables, chairs and beds would frequently be made at home from the materials at hand. Cooking would be done in the family kettle -- a big cast iron cauldron hung in an open fireplace - or on a griddle over the open flame. Under the floor would be a root cellar for storing potatoes and preserves. Outside, a large barrel would capture rainwater running off the roof.
Around the house would be rough outbuildings for livestock, most of which would forage for themselves in the surrounding bush.
The livestock listed at the Fraser homestead seems typical -- ox teams for pulling wagons, sleds and farm implements, horses for long distance travel, cattle for beef and dairy products, sheep for wool and mutton. Chickens and their eggs would be too commonplace for mention.
Kitchen gardens tended by Simon's mother and siblings would provide vegetables and fruit.
"Contiguous to each house was a small garden in which squashes, watermelons and kidney beans were reared and a smaller orchard set with apple trees. Surrounding the houses were large fields planted with corn," noted Peter Kal, travelling up the Hudson River past Albany by canoe before settlement began in the uplands where the Frasers and the other Scots settled.
In a claim for compensation after the war, Isabella Fraser listed stores of corn and hay among the items looted by her rebel neighbours. Later accounts by both British and rebel soldiers talked of passing through fields of wheat and flax on their way to the battleground.
Many farmers sowed their fields with flax because it could be planted early in the spring and harvested by July or August. Flax provided fibre for making linen, linseed oil and animal feed. Hemp was used for making rope and fabric, as it had been since the medieval period.
And potatoes were a common crop. We know that because hungry German mercenaries scavenged for spuds in the field where many were to be slain the next day, even, said witnesses, tying off the ankles of trousers and filling them with the tubers when their forage bags were full.
The bodies of many of these same men would later be tossed helter-skelter into two large pits where the potatoes were stored during the winter months, their bones later becoming evidence in a 20th Century study of land use patterns from a sparsely documented past.
© Vancouver Sun 2005
Stephen Hume, Vancouver Sun
Published: Thursday, December 29, 2005
MAPLETOWN, New York -- Life on the frontier into which Simon Fraser was born in 1776 seems hard by the comfortable standards of the 21st Century.
Yet it was not the nasty, brutish and short experience that our technocentric culture often assumes as a validation of its claim to inherent superiority over the backward past from which it arose.
We have a good idea of what things were like in the world that greeted young Simon thanks to researchers from the New York State Museum and the University of the State of New York who scoured the historical literature for visual descriptions by eyewitnesses.
Their 1989 study of land use and settlement patterns for the small region of up-state New York across the border from Bennington, Vermont, and right next to what was once Mapletown indicates that were we able to drop into Simon's landscape by time machine we would find large but self-sufficient families like his living in close harmony with each other and the great rhythms of the natural world.
The personal labour of these families met most of their needs -- and everyone in the family would participate. They built their own shelter, produced their own food, made their own clothes, cleared their fields, tilled them and harvested the crops by hand, dealt with their medical emergencies at home and entertained themselves.
Men like his father, Simon Sr., and his older brothers William, in his mid-20s, and Angus, in his late teens, did the heavy labour of clearing and tilling land, building structures, cutting firewood, splitting fence rails, making furniture and farm implements and supplementing the larder by hunting and fishing.
"At the age of 22 I could cut an acre in seven days but as a general average men would be from seven to 10 days, particularly if several worked together," wrote Levi Beardsley in Reminiscences, a frontier memoir of the late 1700s that was published in 1852.
Women like Fraser's mother Isabella and his older sisters Margaret, about 20, and Isabella, 14, kept kitchen gardens and orchards, prepared and preserved food, churned their own butter, made soap and candles, spun thread from flax and yarn from wool and then wove, knitted and sewed the family's clothes. Young Simon's other brothers and sisters would help in minding him and toddler Nancy, tend the livestock and chop firewood. At harvest, everyone would pitch in.
German surgeon J.F. Walmus, who marched through the country with the British army in 1777, took particular note of the settlers he encountered there after the battle:
"They were all in bare shirts, had nothing on their bodies but a shirt, vest, long linen trousers which extended to the shoe, no stockings -- powder horn, bullet bag, rum flask and musket. They were all beautifully built men, of very healthy appearance and handsome figure. . ."
So, while life on an 18th Century homestead could be hard and certainly had its occasional perils, it apparently also provided its bountiful rewards, too.
Still, the landscape in which Fraser's early personality took shape would seem barely inhabited to the citizens of today's North America, almost all of us jacked directly into the globalized neural networks of urban life through road grids, public transportation, electrical utilities and the ubiquitous, near-instantaneous communications systems of radio, satellite-based television, cellular telephones, digital data flows and the Internet.
Just visiting a neighbour could be a major expedition in Fraser's time. These days even the most rural inhabitants are seldom more than a few hours drive from town services and no more than a day's travel from some metropolis or other.
For people living in the township where Fraser spent the first eight years of his turbulent young life, most roads were slightly widened trails that to us would seem barely discernible grassy openings in the trees. In heavy rains they quickly became impassable. Swollen creeks flooded and boggy areas became muddy quagmires. The only paving was corduroy -- logs cut into uniform lengths and laid out to form a causeway over soft ground -- and it was temporary.
Occasionally these faint tracks through the hardwood forests that still covered most of eastern North America from the Atlantic to the grasslands of the Great Plains would be defined by a snake fence and then the traveller would soon emerge into the ever-expanding clearing around a farmhouse and its outbuildings.
To clear land, a settler would first strip out the underbrush and lop the lower limbs off trees, saving himself the work of trimming them later. The first trees would be cut and used to build a dwelling, then ground would be cleared for vegetable gardens, finally the forest would be clearcut by hand to create fields for crops and pasture for livestock. In each field, a few veteran trees would be left standing here and there to provide shade for animals in the hot summers.
Virtually all the contemporary travellers' accounts cited in The New York State Museum's land use survey from 1777 indicate houses built of logs and chinked with clay although there were clearly a few frame structures since military accounts record that when Lieutenant-Colonel Friedrich Baum, commander of the German mercenaries at the Battle of Bennington, was mortally wounded and taken from the field, he lay dying in just such a house.
But most homesteads would begin as crude log shanties with a packed earth floor, thrown up hastily to beat the arrival of winter, the logs often unpeeled, the roofs made from flattened sheets of bark from birch or elm trees laid over pole rafters. Later the logs might be squared with an adze. The floor replaced with half-rounds laid flat side up, the roof replaced with hand-split shakes or shingles.
Windows were small. Conserving heat in winter was an issue and since most people rose at dawn, spent most of the day outdoors and went to bed at dusk, interior light was less important than today. Glass was a rare commodity, difficult to transport and hence expensive, so windows were often covered with oiled paper or animal skins scraped parchment-thin.
Tables, chairs and beds would frequently be made at home from the materials at hand. Cooking would be done in the family kettle -- a big cast iron cauldron hung in an open fireplace - or on a griddle over the open flame. Under the floor would be a root cellar for storing potatoes and preserves. Outside, a large barrel would capture rainwater running off the roof.
Around the house would be rough outbuildings for livestock, most of which would forage for themselves in the surrounding bush.
The livestock listed at the Fraser homestead seems typical -- ox teams for pulling wagons, sleds and farm implements, horses for long distance travel, cattle for beef and dairy products, sheep for wool and mutton. Chickens and their eggs would be too commonplace for mention.
Kitchen gardens tended by Simon's mother and siblings would provide vegetables and fruit.
"Contiguous to each house was a small garden in which squashes, watermelons and kidney beans were reared and a smaller orchard set with apple trees. Surrounding the houses were large fields planted with corn," noted Peter Kal, travelling up the Hudson River past Albany by canoe before settlement began in the uplands where the Frasers and the other Scots settled.
In a claim for compensation after the war, Isabella Fraser listed stores of corn and hay among the items looted by her rebel neighbours. Later accounts by both British and rebel soldiers talked of passing through fields of wheat and flax on their way to the battleground.
Many farmers sowed their fields with flax because it could be planted early in the spring and harvested by July or August. Flax provided fibre for making linen, linseed oil and animal feed. Hemp was used for making rope and fabric, as it had been since the medieval period.
And potatoes were a common crop. We know that because hungry German mercenaries scavenged for spuds in the field where many were to be slain the next day, even, said witnesses, tying off the ankles of trousers and filling them with the tubers when their forage bags were full.
The bodies of many of these same men would later be tossed helter-skelter into two large pits where the potatoes were stored during the winter months, their bones later becoming evidence in a 20th Century study of land use patterns from a sparsely documented past.
© Vancouver Sun 2005
Friday, October 05, 2007
Friday, September 07, 2007
Mary Rouleau
I think this is my Mary Rouleau, someone was so nice to send this info to me!
Following from Parish Ste Anne de Centreville Mooers Forks NY extracted by Virginia E. Demarce;
Rouleau, Maria Louise; Parentss: Charolus Rouleau & Delphina Neveux; Born: 23 April; Baptized: 14 May 1865; in Centreville; Godparents: Joachim Neveux & Maria Belouin.
Following from Parish Ste Anne de Centreville Mooers Forks NY extracted by Virginia E. Demarce;
Rouleau, Maria Louise; Parentss: Charolus Rouleau & Delphina Neveux; Born: 23 April; Baptized: 14 May 1865; in Centreville; Godparents: Joachim Neveux & Maria Belouin.
Saturday, September 01, 2007
August Dombrowski (ggg grandfather)
Found this from Donna:
I need help with locating the birthplace of my g grandfather
Name: August DEMBROSKY (DEMBROWSKY (I), DOMBROSKY (I) etc.)
Born: 1871
Birthplace: from Petition for Naturalization-most likely spelled
phonetically as he did not write: Mamusen,( Massussen, Manusen )Russia
He spoke Lithuanian and German
Immigration Date: 1895
Married: Lena MESKUS(MISCHKUS etc.)(/she's another story)
Date of Petition: 1905 renouncing Nicholas II Emperor of Russia
Death record and Census records state Russia/Poland as birthplace.
Other records state Germany as birthplace
Family Lore: August's family raised horses for royalty, possible he had
soomething to do with horses as he worked in Shemmelrock's Undertaking and
Embalming Livery Stable on South Side of Pittsburgh and as a steelworker.
Had some help in Salt Lake locating a name that sounds close to Massussen
etc. in a Russian Gazetteer-MANUCHIN was what the experts came up with.
This was a German Colony according to the Gazetteer. When I enter this in
the internet Odessa comes up. I'm confused more than I was when I started.
Does the name of the town sound familiar to anyone? Are there other
posssibilities. I assumed that he was from closer to Lithuania.
Thank You, Donna
I need help with locating the birthplace of my g grandfather
Name: August DEMBROSKY (DEMBROWSKY (I), DOMBROSKY (I) etc.)
Born: 1871
Birthplace: from Petition for Naturalization-most likely spelled
phonetically as he did not write: Mamusen,( Massussen, Manusen )Russia
He spoke Lithuanian and German
Immigration Date: 1895
Married: Lena MESKUS(MISCHKUS etc.)(/she's another story)
Date of Petition: 1905 renouncing Nicholas II Emperor of Russia
Death record and Census records state Russia/Poland as birthplace.
Other records state Germany as birthplace
Family Lore: August's family raised horses for royalty, possible he had
soomething to do with horses as he worked in Shemmelrock's Undertaking and
Embalming Livery Stable on South Side of Pittsburgh and as a steelworker.
Had some help in Salt Lake locating a name that sounds close to Massussen
etc. in a Russian Gazetteer-MANUCHIN was what the experts came up with.
This was a German Colony according to the Gazetteer. When I enter this in
the internet Odessa comes up. I'm confused more than I was when I started.
Does the name of the town sound familiar to anyone? Are there other
posssibilities. I assumed that he was from closer to Lithuania.
Thank You, Donna
Anna Reichkof (my ggg grandmother
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Captives of 1704: Abigail Nims, The Cordwainer's Daughter
Lesson 8Captives of 1704: Abigail Nims, The Cordwainer's Daughter
Goodwife Nims, at her wheel by the west window, looked across Town Street at a boy, very small and very sad, who sat on the door- step opposite.
Freedom French, the blacksmith's daughter, had run in for the loan of a half teacup of salt, and to her Mary Nims now said,
"Aye, 'tis little Josiah Rising sent here, they tell me, because his father's house was already running over with children when the last one came. Their cousins, the Hindsells here, as yet have ne'er had a one. So strange are the ways of Providence! He's to help Mehuman with the animals, and do the churning and such, for his bed and board. Belike he misses his brothers and sisters, poor lamb!" And her big mother-heart yearned over the waif across the way.
"Come, Abby," she said later to the baby-girl, who had waked from her noon-day nap, and was just finishing her brewis, "let's over to the Hindsells', and see what like is the poor motherless lad."
Holding the child by both dimpled little hands, she guided the tiny feet as they plunged ahead. Small Josiah on the doorstep turned large, unhappy eyes on the pair as they neared him.
"Aye, she's in," he said, fighting back the tears.
At that moment Abby gave a wilder plunge and slipped from her mother's grasp. She would have fallen head first against the stone doorstep had not the lad sprung forward and caught her in his arms. A peal of laughter rippled from her lips. She clapped her hands and offered him her dewy mouth to kiss.
The homesick lad had found a friend. After that they were close companions. Chores morning and night, and daily lessons at Master Richards's next door, took much of Josiah's time, but he was often at the Nims's cheery hearth, or, as Abby grew older, roaming with her as far as they might go in sight of the stockade.
Iris and forget-me-not bloomed for them freely by the brook, but the violets were her favorites. Josiah thought them like her eyes. He took her to visit the ground-sparrow's nest, with its four or five mottled eggs. In the Autumn he filled her lap with shining chestnuts. When snow came he drew her about on the little sled he had made.
Nearly two happy years passed in this way when one day there was news that the Indians were coming and Josiah was forbidden to take Abby outside the fort any more. But there was always plenty to do indoors, what with games
[illustration caption: POPPING CORN]
with the twins and the popping of corn and the roasting of nuts and apples. Godfrey Nims often let them play in his shop while he cobbled and tapped little tunes on his neighbors' shoes.
Then there was the baby! Abigail's married sister had moved with her husband into a cave in the hillside to be safe from the Indians. Their underground life gave a thrill to Josiah, but it was the new baby that pleased Abby most. With eyes smarting from the smoke and feet like little lumps of ice, she would sit and hold her niece by the half hour.
It was now the 29th of February, 1704. That morning Josiah overheard his cousin Mehuman talking with Godfrey Nims about strange sounds that many had heard in the night.
Poor Josiah was haunted all day by the vision of savages. He wanted to look in the snow outside the palisade for their footprints. In the school-room wild faces glared at him from his book. In vain Master Richards scolded him.
Shivering he went to bed, but not to sleep. At a late hour he dozed off. It seemed only a moment later that he woke in the dark to find his fearful dreams come true. The faces were there!
He wondered why the demons did not murder him. Instead he was bound and almost thrown into the meeting-house. A woman and child were pushed in at the same time. It was Abigail and her mother!
On the march toward Canada the three kept together, but Mary Nims each day grew weaker. She and Josiah both knew what this was to mean. At last she beckoned him to one side.
"My lad," she faltered, "you have ever been to me as one of my own. The end for me draws nigh. Promise me, Josiah Rising, that you will shield my baby as far as in you lies." And the boy promised.
For a time Abigail cried for her mother. As only Josiah could quiet her, the Indians let them travel together.
And so it happened that they were taken to the same Indian settlement in Canada.
In the shadow of a mountain near Montreal, on the bank of the Prairie River, stood the fort of Sault au Recollet, known to the English as Fort Oso. It had been built by the French for the protection of their Indian converts. To this fort, with its great stone wall and rude towers, our two captives were brought.
Winter with its many hardships was over. The mild air was musical with bird song. To the worn and half-starved captives the sight of bark wigwams in the shade of friendly trees was most welcome. To one of these Josiah followed his Indian master, and into another the squaw Ganastarsi took wee Abigail.
Soon they were quite at home with papooses and puppies, playing the Indian games, speaking Iroquois, and answering to the names Shoentakaani and Taatogaach, though Abigail was bap- tized by the Jesuits as Mary Elizabeth and Josiah as Ignace.
The damp and smoky wigwam was like the Munns's cave, and her bright new blanket was better than Abigail's Puritan clothes, now in rags. Save for her blue eyes, the change was complete. She had already grown used to dirt, and to scant, coarse fare, though not yet to being slapped and beaten.
There came a day when Ganastarsi washed the child's face and hands and led her to the nuns' school.
"The poor baby!" whispered the Lady Superior. She herself was an English captive from Maine. She took Abigail and combed her matted hair. Then she washed the baby face and hands. This time they were clean. Next she found some clean clothes, and, when she had dressed the chilld, took her in to the other sisters. They made a great fuss over her.
"After this, my child," said Sister Marie des Anges, "you will go to mass. You can go with the other girls. And--you are to learn the creed and catechism." Abigail would have learned anything for the beautiful Sister Marie des Anges!
Now she was taught how to read and write and to speak French. Every weekday afternoon she sat with the Indian girls and learned
[illustration caption: WAR SONGS AND DANCES FAR INTO THE NIGHT]
from the patient sisters to sew and knit, and later to make lace and to spin.
But, best of all, she liked attending mass on Sunday, when the boys and girls of the mission went in procession to church, where were bright pictures of the saints and of the blessed Jesus and his mother, with tall candles burning before them on the altar. She knew Josiah's voice above the rest of the choir, without turning to look, which would have been a sin.
He, too, was learning useful things, like carpentry and shoemaking, for he would soon be a man.
Down in the village how different were the lessons they learned! from war-parties returning with scalps, from torture of prisoners, and from war-songs and dances lasting into the night, all cruelty and hate!
And these fiends went to mass and called themselves Christians! It was too hard for Josiah to understand. All hope for his own escape had long since died out of his heart. Even could he get away there was his promise to Mary Nims. He might not leave Abigail behind.
Ensign John Sheldon, sent by the Governor of Massachusetts, had made more than one visit to the fort in search of captives, but Josiah each time would be away hunting, sent purposely by his master. At such times, too, Abigail was hidden away by the sisters somewhere in the convent.
Abigail was confirmed when she was ten years old, and, all in white and in a shimmering white veil, she went up to the altar for her first communion. Ignace was there in his white surplice, and it was he who swung the censer. To the little devotee he was always Ignace, not Shoentakaani, as with the Iroquois, and never any more Josiah.
Later, her brother John came from Deerfield, with Lieutenant Samuel Williams, to demand her release. Her father, John said, had left her a little property. Would she not come home and claim it?
The sisters were made very happy when their little Mary Elizabeth answered that she would rather stay a poor girl with them than leave them to be a rich heiress.
And deep down in his heart Ignace was not sorry.
It is early summer in Westfield, Massachusetts.
At the edge of the common a group of men and boys have gathered about an evil-faced Indian, with him a young squaw. To one side of the crowd two men, king's officers, stand watching.
"I tell you, Barnard," Col Partridge is saying, "she is no squaw, but a white woman. Why, man alive! her eyes are blue! Blue as"—he looks around and spies some flowers at their feet, "blue as those violets!"
Captain Barnard smiles at the old veteran. "For all that, Partridge, the woman may be a halfbreed, French and Indian belike. "Tis a common sort in the north, you remember."
"She is an English captive, I tell you," shouts the Colonel. "I would take my oath upon it. I believe the maid is Godfrey Nims's daughter, from your own town. Was ever a greater crime in this county of Hampshire? An English maid put up for sale like any cattle!"
"But Nims's daughters were all killed ten years ago--all save Mistress Munn. Hold! I remember now there was a child of four or thereabouts--Abigail, I think, they called her. Can it be possi- ble that this poor Indian creature and she are the same?"
"Talk with her, Barnard, and with the scoundrel who leads her."
Captain Barnard pushes his way through a crowd for a close look at the young squaw--skin brown, hair hidden by a gay blanket, exactly like an Indian. Suddenly she turns her eyes full upon him. Heavens and earth! Partridge was right. Violets are no bluer!
Her name is Taatogaach, the girl says. Any other? Mary Elizabeth. Her master Elawacamb wants a price, but she will go to the highest bidder. Barnard's anger rises that this is possible in a Christian land. Barter and sale of English among English! Yet if the Indian won her in battle, no power save that of purchase can take her from him.
So, through purchase, Abigail returned to Deerfield after all. She lived with her brother John and his wife on old Town Street, once more in Puritan garb, as she helped in the work of the household.
But to John, his wife Elizabeth said, "I can make naught of her. When I gave her that pretty cloak she made no more sign than when she scalded her foot the day before. I doubt she will always be Indian."
They would have wondered could they have read her mind. All through the long, busy days, whether tending cradle, sewing or spinning, one name was always in her thoughts and "Ignace!" was the cry of her lonely heart.
These Deerfield people were strange, and their ways more so. On the Sabbath they gathered twice a day in a box they called a meeting-house, where a solemn Mr. Williams spoke for hours from the pulpit. There were no candles, no incense, no pictures, no choir-boys --no Ignace! She missed the sisters of the mission school, the priest to whom she made confession and--Ignace.
When Spring came with the singing of birds and the soft breath from the forests, Elizabeth noticed that Abigail seemed restless. There was a look in the blue eyes as of something caged. One morning the young matron called her sister twice without an answer. Hurrying above to the girl's room she found it empty. The bird had flown!
On a chair, neatly folded, lay the clothes Elizabeth had so carefully made for her. Only her blanket was missing.
With the training of the savage, Taatogaach found her way to Montreal reading the signs of the forest, of stars and streams. For her it was no new thing to live on bark and wild roots. Safely she stole by hostile Indian and deadly wild beast. Footsore and fainting she paused outside Fort Oso.
The first one to walk out through the gate was Ignace!
They were married soon after, the groom nearly twenty-one, the bride fifteen. Happy in the union of their dear children Sister Marie and the other nuns were present. Many of the Iroquois were at the wedding, for Ignace and his bride still belonged to their tribe.
Later, because of their good lives, the priests gave them a large grant of land on which they built a home where they reared a family of eight children and were in all things a pattern to the savages.
The eldest daughter became a nun and was sent as a missionary to the Iroquois. In this way Abigail Nims and Josiah Rising returned to their enemy good for evil.
Today the descendants of Ignace and Elizabeth Raizenne live under their original roof-tree, and there you may drink to the memory of the two captives, in wine from vines of their own planting, or, if you prefer, in cool, clear water from the well dug by the hands of Josiah Rising.
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Goodwife Nims, at her wheel by the west window, looked across Town Street at a boy, very small and very sad, who sat on the door- step opposite.
Freedom French, the blacksmith's daughter, had run in for the loan of a half teacup of salt, and to her Mary Nims now said,
"Aye, 'tis little Josiah Rising sent here, they tell me, because his father's house was already running over with children when the last one came. Their cousins, the Hindsells here, as yet have ne'er had a one. So strange are the ways of Providence! He's to help Mehuman with the animals, and do the churning and such, for his bed and board. Belike he misses his brothers and sisters, poor lamb!" And her big mother-heart yearned over the waif across the way.
"Come, Abby," she said later to the baby-girl, who had waked from her noon-day nap, and was just finishing her brewis, "let's over to the Hindsells', and see what like is the poor motherless lad."
Holding the child by both dimpled little hands, she guided the tiny feet as they plunged ahead. Small Josiah on the doorstep turned large, unhappy eyes on the pair as they neared him.
"Aye, she's in," he said, fighting back the tears.
At that moment Abby gave a wilder plunge and slipped from her mother's grasp. She would have fallen head first against the stone doorstep had not the lad sprung forward and caught her in his arms. A peal of laughter rippled from her lips. She clapped her hands and offered him her dewy mouth to kiss.
The homesick lad had found a friend. After that they were close companions. Chores morning and night, and daily lessons at Master Richards's next door, took much of Josiah's time, but he was often at the Nims's cheery hearth, or, as Abby grew older, roaming with her as far as they might go in sight of the stockade.
Iris and forget-me-not bloomed for them freely by the brook, but the violets were her favorites. Josiah thought them like her eyes. He took her to visit the ground-sparrow's nest, with its four or five mottled eggs. In the Autumn he filled her lap with shining chestnuts. When snow came he drew her about on the little sled he had made.
Nearly two happy years passed in this way when one day there was news that the Indians were coming and Josiah was forbidden to take Abby outside the fort any more. But there was always plenty to do indoors, what with games
[illustration caption: POPPING CORN]
with the twins and the popping of corn and the roasting of nuts and apples. Godfrey Nims often let them play in his shop while he cobbled and tapped little tunes on his neighbors' shoes.
Then there was the baby! Abigail's married sister had moved with her husband into a cave in the hillside to be safe from the Indians. Their underground life gave a thrill to Josiah, but it was the new baby that pleased Abby most. With eyes smarting from the smoke and feet like little lumps of ice, she would sit and hold her niece by the half hour.
It was now the 29th of February, 1704. That morning Josiah overheard his cousin Mehuman talking with Godfrey Nims about strange sounds that many had heard in the night.
Poor Josiah was haunted all day by the vision of savages. He wanted to look in the snow outside the palisade for their footprints. In the school-room wild faces glared at him from his book. In vain Master Richards scolded him.
Shivering he went to bed, but not to sleep. At a late hour he dozed off. It seemed only a moment later that he woke in the dark to find his fearful dreams come true. The faces were there!
He wondered why the demons did not murder him. Instead he was bound and almost thrown into the meeting-house. A woman and child were pushed in at the same time. It was Abigail and her mother!
On the march toward Canada the three kept together, but Mary Nims each day grew weaker. She and Josiah both knew what this was to mean. At last she beckoned him to one side.
"My lad," she faltered, "you have ever been to me as one of my own. The end for me draws nigh. Promise me, Josiah Rising, that you will shield my baby as far as in you lies." And the boy promised.
For a time Abigail cried for her mother. As only Josiah could quiet her, the Indians let them travel together.
And so it happened that they were taken to the same Indian settlement in Canada.
In the shadow of a mountain near Montreal, on the bank of the Prairie River, stood the fort of Sault au Recollet, known to the English as Fort Oso. It had been built by the French for the protection of their Indian converts. To this fort, with its great stone wall and rude towers, our two captives were brought.
Winter with its many hardships was over. The mild air was musical with bird song. To the worn and half-starved captives the sight of bark wigwams in the shade of friendly trees was most welcome. To one of these Josiah followed his Indian master, and into another the squaw Ganastarsi took wee Abigail.
Soon they were quite at home with papooses and puppies, playing the Indian games, speaking Iroquois, and answering to the names Shoentakaani and Taatogaach, though Abigail was bap- tized by the Jesuits as Mary Elizabeth and Josiah as Ignace.
The damp and smoky wigwam was like the Munns's cave, and her bright new blanket was better than Abigail's Puritan clothes, now in rags. Save for her blue eyes, the change was complete. She had already grown used to dirt, and to scant, coarse fare, though not yet to being slapped and beaten.
There came a day when Ganastarsi washed the child's face and hands and led her to the nuns' school.
"The poor baby!" whispered the Lady Superior. She herself was an English captive from Maine. She took Abigail and combed her matted hair. Then she washed the baby face and hands. This time they were clean. Next she found some clean clothes, and, when she had dressed the chilld, took her in to the other sisters. They made a great fuss over her.
"After this, my child," said Sister Marie des Anges, "you will go to mass. You can go with the other girls. And--you are to learn the creed and catechism." Abigail would have learned anything for the beautiful Sister Marie des Anges!
Now she was taught how to read and write and to speak French. Every weekday afternoon she sat with the Indian girls and learned
[illustration caption: WAR SONGS AND DANCES FAR INTO THE NIGHT]
from the patient sisters to sew and knit, and later to make lace and to spin.
But, best of all, she liked attending mass on Sunday, when the boys and girls of the mission went in procession to church, where were bright pictures of the saints and of the blessed Jesus and his mother, with tall candles burning before them on the altar. She knew Josiah's voice above the rest of the choir, without turning to look, which would have been a sin.
He, too, was learning useful things, like carpentry and shoemaking, for he would soon be a man.
Down in the village how different were the lessons they learned! from war-parties returning with scalps, from torture of prisoners, and from war-songs and dances lasting into the night, all cruelty and hate!
And these fiends went to mass and called themselves Christians! It was too hard for Josiah to understand. All hope for his own escape had long since died out of his heart. Even could he get away there was his promise to Mary Nims. He might not leave Abigail behind.
Ensign John Sheldon, sent by the Governor of Massachusetts, had made more than one visit to the fort in search of captives, but Josiah each time would be away hunting, sent purposely by his master. At such times, too, Abigail was hidden away by the sisters somewhere in the convent.
Abigail was confirmed when she was ten years old, and, all in white and in a shimmering white veil, she went up to the altar for her first communion. Ignace was there in his white surplice, and it was he who swung the censer. To the little devotee he was always Ignace, not Shoentakaani, as with the Iroquois, and never any more Josiah.
Later, her brother John came from Deerfield, with Lieutenant Samuel Williams, to demand her release. Her father, John said, had left her a little property. Would she not come home and claim it?
The sisters were made very happy when their little Mary Elizabeth answered that she would rather stay a poor girl with them than leave them to be a rich heiress.
And deep down in his heart Ignace was not sorry.
It is early summer in Westfield, Massachusetts.
At the edge of the common a group of men and boys have gathered about an evil-faced Indian, with him a young squaw. To one side of the crowd two men, king's officers, stand watching.
"I tell you, Barnard," Col Partridge is saying, "she is no squaw, but a white woman. Why, man alive! her eyes are blue! Blue as"—he looks around and spies some flowers at their feet, "blue as those violets!"
Captain Barnard smiles at the old veteran. "For all that, Partridge, the woman may be a halfbreed, French and Indian belike. "Tis a common sort in the north, you remember."
"She is an English captive, I tell you," shouts the Colonel. "I would take my oath upon it. I believe the maid is Godfrey Nims's daughter, from your own town. Was ever a greater crime in this county of Hampshire? An English maid put up for sale like any cattle!"
"But Nims's daughters were all killed ten years ago--all save Mistress Munn. Hold! I remember now there was a child of four or thereabouts--Abigail, I think, they called her. Can it be possi- ble that this poor Indian creature and she are the same?"
"Talk with her, Barnard, and with the scoundrel who leads her."
Captain Barnard pushes his way through a crowd for a close look at the young squaw--skin brown, hair hidden by a gay blanket, exactly like an Indian. Suddenly she turns her eyes full upon him. Heavens and earth! Partridge was right. Violets are no bluer!
Her name is Taatogaach, the girl says. Any other? Mary Elizabeth. Her master Elawacamb wants a price, but she will go to the highest bidder. Barnard's anger rises that this is possible in a Christian land. Barter and sale of English among English! Yet if the Indian won her in battle, no power save that of purchase can take her from him.
So, through purchase, Abigail returned to Deerfield after all. She lived with her brother John and his wife on old Town Street, once more in Puritan garb, as she helped in the work of the household.
But to John, his wife Elizabeth said, "I can make naught of her. When I gave her that pretty cloak she made no more sign than when she scalded her foot the day before. I doubt she will always be Indian."
They would have wondered could they have read her mind. All through the long, busy days, whether tending cradle, sewing or spinning, one name was always in her thoughts and "Ignace!" was the cry of her lonely heart.
These Deerfield people were strange, and their ways more so. On the Sabbath they gathered twice a day in a box they called a meeting-house, where a solemn Mr. Williams spoke for hours from the pulpit. There were no candles, no incense, no pictures, no choir-boys --no Ignace! She missed the sisters of the mission school, the priest to whom she made confession and--Ignace.
When Spring came with the singing of birds and the soft breath from the forests, Elizabeth noticed that Abigail seemed restless. There was a look in the blue eyes as of something caged. One morning the young matron called her sister twice without an answer. Hurrying above to the girl's room she found it empty. The bird had flown!
On a chair, neatly folded, lay the clothes Elizabeth had so carefully made for her. Only her blanket was missing.
With the training of the savage, Taatogaach found her way to Montreal reading the signs of the forest, of stars and streams. For her it was no new thing to live on bark and wild roots. Safely she stole by hostile Indian and deadly wild beast. Footsore and fainting she paused outside Fort Oso.
The first one to walk out through the gate was Ignace!
They were married soon after, the groom nearly twenty-one, the bride fifteen. Happy in the union of their dear children Sister Marie and the other nuns were present. Many of the Iroquois were at the wedding, for Ignace and his bride still belonged to their tribe.
Later, because of their good lives, the priests gave them a large grant of land on which they built a home where they reared a family of eight children and were in all things a pattern to the savages.
The eldest daughter became a nun and was sent as a missionary to the Iroquois. In this way Abigail Nims and Josiah Rising returned to their enemy good for evil.
Today the descendants of Ignace and Elizabeth Raizenne live under their original roof-tree, and there you may drink to the memory of the two captives, in wine from vines of their own planting, or, if you prefer, in cool, clear water from the well dug by the hands of Josiah Rising.
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Josiah Rising (Ignace Raizenne) and Abigail Nims (Elisabeth Nims)
DEERFIELD MASSACRE, HISTORY MUSEUM http://www.1704.deerfield.history.museum/home.do
In 1762, Oliver Quesnel's great great grandson and Arthur Quesnel's great great grandfather, Antoine Quesnel married Elizabeth Sequin. Elizabeth was the granddaugher of Ignace Raizenne and Elisabeth Nims, formerly "Josiah Rising and Abigail Nims", survivors of the historic 1704 Deerfield, Massachusetts Massacre. Josiah Rising (10 yrs. old) and Abigail Nims (4 yrs. old) were 2 captives taken to Quebec, adopted and raised by the Kanienkehaka (Mohawk). Ignace was given the new name of Shoentak'ani and Abigail the new name of T'atog'ach. They were released and placed in the Catholic Mission in 1713, baptized for the 3rd time and given new names: Ignace Raizenne and Elisabeth Nims. They were married in 1715 and raised their family in Oka, Quebec. Their home still stands today.
In 1889 a spruce tree from the Quebec home site of Josiah Rising & Abigail Nims was planted at the Museum in Deerfield, Massachusetts in their memory. See the following link: http://www.1704.deerfield.history.museum/popups/artifacts.do?shortName=tree
More info on the Nims from this site: http://nimsfamily.com/GodfreyNims.htm
The background of Godfrey Nims of Deerfield, Massachusetts, common ancestor of those with the name of Nims, is shrouded in mystery. One family tradition has it that he was a Huguenot, came to America as a lad, at first spelled his name Godefroi de Nismes, but changed the spelling to suit the colonial pronunciation. Yet some support is also available to suggest he was of English birth, though perhaps with French ancestry. No documentary evidence has been found to verify any country of origin despite efforts made over the years.
Regardless of his birthplace, the first official record of Godfrey Nims appears on September 24, 1667, in a Springfield, Massachusetts court record.
"James Bennet, Godfrey Nims & Benoni Stebbins, young lads of Northampton being by Northampton Commissionrs bound ouer to this Corte to answer for diverse crimes & misdemeanrs comitted by them, were brought to this Corte by ye Constable of yt Towne wch 3 lads are accused by Robert Bartlett for that they gott into his house two Sabbath dayes when all the family were at the Publike Meeting: On ye first of wch tymes, they vizt. 24 shillings in silver & 7s in Wampum with the intention to run away to the ffrench: Al which is by them confessed, wch wickedness of theires hath also been accompanyd with frequent lying to excuse & justify themselves especially on Nims his pt, who it seemes hath been a ringleader in their vilainys: ffor all wch their crimes and misdemeanors this Corte doth Judge yt the said 3 lads shalbe well whipt on their naked bodys vizt, Nims & Bennet with 15 lashes apeece & Bononi Stebbins with 11 lashes. And the said Nims & Stebbins are to pay Robert Bartlett the summe of 4L being counted treble according to law for what goods he hath lost by their meanes. "
Archival records of Massachusetts list Godfrey Nims as one of many from Northampton who signed a petition in 1668 requesting relief from taxation on goods brought into the colony's ports. He also appears with others when taking the Oath of Fidelity to the government on March 25, 1672/3, at the County Court at Northampton. Again, family tradition tells us that Godfrey soon came to Deerfield, Massachusetts around 1670, perhaps as early as the third settler. A deed dated 1679 gives the first written indication that Godfrey settled at Deerfield, where he later shared in the holding of public offices, including constable, tax collector, selectman, and later, as a member of the school committee. The present White Church, town office, town hall, and Memorial Hall all stand on land formerly owned by Godfrey. J. R. Trumbull's History of Northampton, Massachusetts describes Godfrey as "the owner of considerable property and...an honored and respected citizen."
In 1677, Godfrey married Mary Miller Williams, widow of Zebediah Williams who had been killed earlier by Indians. Following the death of Mary in 1688, Godfrey married Mehitable Smead Hull in 1692, widow of Jeremiah Hull. He had six children with Mary and five with Mehitable, in addition to caring for two stepchildren each that the widows brought to the marriages. As the records demonstrate, Godfrey Nims joined the Puritan society in the Connecticut Valley, learned to make his living as a cordwainer (shoemaker) as well as a farmer, and raised a large family. Like other settlers, he shared the work and faced tragedies and dangers common to the area. The greatest blow came on February 29, 1704, when about 2 hours before day "ye French & Indian enemy made an attaque upon Derefield, entering ye Fort with Little discovery though it is sd ye watch shot of a gun & cryed Arm, weth verry few heard." The attackers burned most buildings and killed or took captive most of the settlers. Godfrey died within a year, and it is from the four surviving children, John, Ebenezer, Thankful and Abigail, that members of the Nims family are descended.
Godfrey Nims Boulder Dedication, August 13, 1914. L-R, Norris G. Nims, Ruth M. Nims, Charlotte S. Nims, Estelle C. Nims, and Charlotte's mother, Emma B. Nims.
A Summary of the Godfrey Nims Family
Spouse #1, Mary Miller WilliamsChildren:
Mary Williams, b. December 24, 1673. Godfrey's stepdaughter later married Nathanial Brooks in 1695 at Deerfield. Nathanial, Mary, and two young children were all captured in the 1704 raid. Nathanial later was redeemed; the fate of the two children is unknown. Mary Williams Brooks, on the 8th day of the forced march, relayed that she had been "disabled by a fall on the ice, causing a miscarriage during the night. I will not be able to travel far, and I know they will kill me today." Speaking with her minister, also one of the captives, she asked, "Pray for me that God would take me to himself." They parted and she went calmly to certain death, March 7, 1704.
Zebediah Williams, b. 1675; captured by Indians with stepbrother John Nims on October 8, 1703. Died a captive in Canada on April 12, 1706.
Rebecca Nims, b. August 12, 1678; died August 30, 1678.
John Nims, b. August 14, 1679; captured by Indians October 8, 1703, and escaped from Canada in 1705. Married his step-sister Elizabeth Hull on December 19, 1707. He died December 29, 1762.
Rebecca Nims, b. August 14, 1679, a twin of John. Married Philip Mattoon January 15, 1702/3. She was killed in the 1704 raid on Deerfield, age 24. Philip was captured and died on the forced march to Canada.
Henry Nims, b. April 29, 1682; killed in 1704 at Deerfield, age 22.
Thankful Nims, b. August 29, 1684; married Benjamin Munn January 15, 1702/3; d. July 11, 1746.
Ebenezer Nims, b. March 14, 1686/7; captured and taken to Canada in the 1704 raid; redeemed in 1714; returned to Deerfield with fellow captive and wife Sarah Hoyt.
Spouse # 2, Mehitable Smead HullChildren:
Elizabeth Hull, b. December 23, 1688; married step-brother John Nims as noted above; d. September 21, 1754.
Jeremiah Hull, b. January 15, 1690; burned to death in the house of his father Nims, when that home was destroyed by fire, January 4, 1693/4.
Thomas Nims, b. November 6, 1693; d. at the age of three, September 10, 1697.
Mehitable Nims, b. May 16, 1696; killed in 1704 at Deerfield, age 7.
Mary Nims, b. February 28, 1698/9; killed in 1704 at Deerfield, age 5.
Mercy Nims, b. February 28, 1698/9; a twin of Mary, also killed in 1704 at Deerfield, age 5.
Abigail Nims, b. May 27, 1700; captured in the 1704 raid at Deerfield, and taken to Canada as captive. She remained in Canada the rest of her life, marrying fellow captive Josiah Rising, (Ignace Raizenne.)
Note the toll of Godfrey's family members killed or taken captive in the 1704 raid on Deerfield: his second wife captured, dying on the forced march to Canada. One son killed, and one captured, to be redeemed ten years later; four daughters killed that day; one daughter captured and taken to Canada, never to return. A step-daughter, Mary Williams Brooks, and a son-in-law, Phillip Mattoon, captured and killed on the march; a grandchild, infant Mattoon, killed in the attack. Earlier in 1703, a son and stepson captured and taken to Canada, where one escaped and the other died captive. One might well imagine the burden of these tragedies contributing to Godfrey's death sometime early in 1705.
And some more on Josiah and Abigail here: http://www.meadnewsletter.com/newsletters2006/jan2006.html
In 1762, Oliver Quesnel's great great grandson and Arthur Quesnel's great great grandfather, Antoine Quesnel married Elizabeth Sequin. Elizabeth was the granddaugher of Ignace Raizenne and Elisabeth Nims, formerly "Josiah Rising and Abigail Nims", survivors of the historic 1704 Deerfield, Massachusetts Massacre. Josiah Rising (10 yrs. old) and Abigail Nims (4 yrs. old) were 2 captives taken to Quebec, adopted and raised by the Kanienkehaka (Mohawk). Ignace was given the new name of Shoentak'ani and Abigail the new name of T'atog'ach. They were released and placed in the Catholic Mission in 1713, baptized for the 3rd time and given new names: Ignace Raizenne and Elisabeth Nims. They were married in 1715 and raised their family in Oka, Quebec. Their home still stands today.
In 1889 a spruce tree from the Quebec home site of Josiah Rising & Abigail Nims was planted at the Museum in Deerfield, Massachusetts in their memory. See the following link: http://www.1704.deerfield.history.museum/popups/artifacts.do?shortName=tree
More info on the Nims from this site: http://nimsfamily.com/GodfreyNims.htm
The background of Godfrey Nims of Deerfield, Massachusetts, common ancestor of those with the name of Nims, is shrouded in mystery. One family tradition has it that he was a Huguenot, came to America as a lad, at first spelled his name Godefroi de Nismes, but changed the spelling to suit the colonial pronunciation. Yet some support is also available to suggest he was of English birth, though perhaps with French ancestry. No documentary evidence has been found to verify any country of origin despite efforts made over the years.
Regardless of his birthplace, the first official record of Godfrey Nims appears on September 24, 1667, in a Springfield, Massachusetts court record.
"James Bennet, Godfrey Nims & Benoni Stebbins, young lads of Northampton being by Northampton Commissionrs bound ouer to this Corte to answer for diverse crimes & misdemeanrs comitted by them, were brought to this Corte by ye Constable of yt Towne wch 3 lads are accused by Robert Bartlett for that they gott into his house two Sabbath dayes when all the family were at the Publike Meeting: On ye first of wch tymes, they vizt. 24 shillings in silver & 7s in Wampum with the intention to run away to the ffrench: Al which is by them confessed, wch wickedness of theires hath also been accompanyd with frequent lying to excuse & justify themselves especially on Nims his pt, who it seemes hath been a ringleader in their vilainys: ffor all wch their crimes and misdemeanors this Corte doth Judge yt the said 3 lads shalbe well whipt on their naked bodys vizt, Nims & Bennet with 15 lashes apeece & Bononi Stebbins with 11 lashes. And the said Nims & Stebbins are to pay Robert Bartlett the summe of 4L being counted treble according to law for what goods he hath lost by their meanes. "
Archival records of Massachusetts list Godfrey Nims as one of many from Northampton who signed a petition in 1668 requesting relief from taxation on goods brought into the colony's ports. He also appears with others when taking the Oath of Fidelity to the government on March 25, 1672/3, at the County Court at Northampton. Again, family tradition tells us that Godfrey soon came to Deerfield, Massachusetts around 1670, perhaps as early as the third settler. A deed dated 1679 gives the first written indication that Godfrey settled at Deerfield, where he later shared in the holding of public offices, including constable, tax collector, selectman, and later, as a member of the school committee. The present White Church, town office, town hall, and Memorial Hall all stand on land formerly owned by Godfrey. J. R. Trumbull's History of Northampton, Massachusetts describes Godfrey as "the owner of considerable property and...an honored and respected citizen."
In 1677, Godfrey married Mary Miller Williams, widow of Zebediah Williams who had been killed earlier by Indians. Following the death of Mary in 1688, Godfrey married Mehitable Smead Hull in 1692, widow of Jeremiah Hull. He had six children with Mary and five with Mehitable, in addition to caring for two stepchildren each that the widows brought to the marriages. As the records demonstrate, Godfrey Nims joined the Puritan society in the Connecticut Valley, learned to make his living as a cordwainer (shoemaker) as well as a farmer, and raised a large family. Like other settlers, he shared the work and faced tragedies and dangers common to the area. The greatest blow came on February 29, 1704, when about 2 hours before day "ye French & Indian enemy made an attaque upon Derefield, entering ye Fort with Little discovery though it is sd ye watch shot of a gun & cryed Arm, weth verry few heard." The attackers burned most buildings and killed or took captive most of the settlers. Godfrey died within a year, and it is from the four surviving children, John, Ebenezer, Thankful and Abigail, that members of the Nims family are descended.
Godfrey Nims Boulder Dedication, August 13, 1914. L-R, Norris G. Nims, Ruth M. Nims, Charlotte S. Nims, Estelle C. Nims, and Charlotte's mother, Emma B. Nims.
A Summary of the Godfrey Nims Family
Spouse #1, Mary Miller WilliamsChildren:
Mary Williams, b. December 24, 1673. Godfrey's stepdaughter later married Nathanial Brooks in 1695 at Deerfield. Nathanial, Mary, and two young children were all captured in the 1704 raid. Nathanial later was redeemed; the fate of the two children is unknown. Mary Williams Brooks, on the 8th day of the forced march, relayed that she had been "disabled by a fall on the ice, causing a miscarriage during the night. I will not be able to travel far, and I know they will kill me today." Speaking with her minister, also one of the captives, she asked, "Pray for me that God would take me to himself." They parted and she went calmly to certain death, March 7, 1704.
Zebediah Williams, b. 1675; captured by Indians with stepbrother John Nims on October 8, 1703. Died a captive in Canada on April 12, 1706.
Rebecca Nims, b. August 12, 1678; died August 30, 1678.
John Nims, b. August 14, 1679; captured by Indians October 8, 1703, and escaped from Canada in 1705. Married his step-sister Elizabeth Hull on December 19, 1707. He died December 29, 1762.
Rebecca Nims, b. August 14, 1679, a twin of John. Married Philip Mattoon January 15, 1702/3. She was killed in the 1704 raid on Deerfield, age 24. Philip was captured and died on the forced march to Canada.
Henry Nims, b. April 29, 1682; killed in 1704 at Deerfield, age 22.
Thankful Nims, b. August 29, 1684; married Benjamin Munn January 15, 1702/3; d. July 11, 1746.
Ebenezer Nims, b. March 14, 1686/7; captured and taken to Canada in the 1704 raid; redeemed in 1714; returned to Deerfield with fellow captive and wife Sarah Hoyt.
Spouse # 2, Mehitable Smead HullChildren:
Elizabeth Hull, b. December 23, 1688; married step-brother John Nims as noted above; d. September 21, 1754.
Jeremiah Hull, b. January 15, 1690; burned to death in the house of his father Nims, when that home was destroyed by fire, January 4, 1693/4.
Thomas Nims, b. November 6, 1693; d. at the age of three, September 10, 1697.
Mehitable Nims, b. May 16, 1696; killed in 1704 at Deerfield, age 7.
Mary Nims, b. February 28, 1698/9; killed in 1704 at Deerfield, age 5.
Mercy Nims, b. February 28, 1698/9; a twin of Mary, also killed in 1704 at Deerfield, age 5.
Abigail Nims, b. May 27, 1700; captured in the 1704 raid at Deerfield, and taken to Canada as captive. She remained in Canada the rest of her life, marrying fellow captive Josiah Rising, (Ignace Raizenne.)
Note the toll of Godfrey's family members killed or taken captive in the 1704 raid on Deerfield: his second wife captured, dying on the forced march to Canada. One son killed, and one captured, to be redeemed ten years later; four daughters killed that day; one daughter captured and taken to Canada, never to return. A step-daughter, Mary Williams Brooks, and a son-in-law, Phillip Mattoon, captured and killed on the march; a grandchild, infant Mattoon, killed in the attack. Earlier in 1703, a son and stepson captured and taken to Canada, where one escaped and the other died captive. One might well imagine the burden of these tragedies contributing to Godfrey's death sometime early in 1705.
And some more on Josiah and Abigail here: http://www.meadnewsletter.com/newsletters2006/jan2006.html
Ignace Raizenna and Elisabeth Nims
Interesting information I found on them:
LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE (son of JEAN BAPTISTE SEGUIN and GENEVIEVE BARBEAU) was born April 08, 1712 in Boucherville, Chambly, Que., and died July 13, 1763 in Oka, Que.. He married M. ANNE RAIZENNE on May 08, 1736 in Oka, Que., daughter of ABIGAIL NIMBS. Notes for LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE:Generation XIII --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Historical Churches --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Association des Seguin d'Amerique --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Kings of France --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Carignan Regiment --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Time Line --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Guillaume Seguinin Mexico --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Credits Page --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sign Parchment Page --------------------------------------------------------------------------------View Parchment Page Generation IV The Family of Louis Séguin and Marie Anne RaizenneLouis Séguin (8 Apr 1712, Boucherville, Québec - 13 Jul 1763, Grand Détroit, Québec) married Marie Anne Raizenne (1719, Québec - 27 Mar 1787, Oka, Québec) on Sunday, 8 Apr 1736, at the Church of Our Lady of Loretto (now called the Church of the Annonciation), in Lac des Deux Montagnes (present-day Oka), Québec). Louis Séguin, born 8 Apr 1712, in Boucherville, QC, and baptized in the parish of Ste Famille, was the eldest son of Jean Baptiste Séguin and Genevieve Barbeau. His baptismal entry is recorded as follows and contains the names of his godparents, Louis Reguindeau and Marie Veronneau: L’an mil sept cent douze le neuvieve jour d’avril, je pretre soussigne faisant les fonctions curiales dans la paroisse de la Ste Famille de Boucherville, ai baptise Louis, né le jour précédent de Jean Baptiste Séguin et de Genevieve Barbot son épouse. Le parain a été Louis Reguindo, la maraine Marie Veroneau qui ont déclaré ne savoir signer de ce requis selon l’ordonnance.C. Dauzat ptre English translation: The year 1712, the 9th day of April, I the undersigned priest being the parish priest at the parish of Holy Family of Boucherville, baptize Louis, born the preceding day of Jean Baptiste Séguin and Genevieve Barbeau his spouse. The godfather is Louis Reguindeau, the godmother Marie Veronneau who declare as not being able to sign according to the ordinance.C. Dauzat, priest On his 24th birthday, 8 Apr 1736, Louis married 16 year old Marie Anne Raizenne in the church of the Annociation, Oka, QC. Marie Anne was the daughter of Ignace Raizenne and Elisabeth Nims, both of whom had been seized as captives in their childhood during the French and Indian raid on the New England village of Deerfield, Massachusetts on 29 Feb 1704. (As children they were originally named Josiah Rising and Abigail Nims but when baptized by the French, were given new names in honor of St Ignatius and Ste Elizabeth.) Since it is such an historically interesting story, I will depart momentarily from the story of Louis Séguin and Marie Anne Raizenne’s lives in order to share the tale of her parents. More About LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE:Education: 1736, Able to write.Fact 1: 1744, Marieville ?.Fact 2: 1752, concession # 49, Hudson.Fact 3: Major commander of Oka Fort..Occupation: Lieutenant de la Milice.Sources: April 08, 1736, PRDH, U. of Montreal, Que..More About LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE and M. ANNE RAIZENNE:Marriage: May 08, 1736, Oka, Que..Children of LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE and M. ANNE RAIZENNE are:
+FRANCOIS SALES SEGUIN, b. September 1740, Deux Montagne, Que., d. 1817, Vaudreuil, Que..
LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE (son of JEAN BAPTISTE SEGUIN and GENEVIEVE BARBEAU) was born April 08, 1712 in Boucherville, Chambly, Que., and died July 13, 1763 in Oka, Que.. He married M. ANNE RAIZENNE on May 08, 1736 in Oka, Que., daughter of ABIGAIL NIMBS. Notes for LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE:Generation XIII --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Historical Churches --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Association des Seguin d'Amerique --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Kings of France --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Carignan Regiment --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Time Line --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Guillaume Seguinin Mexico --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Credits Page --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sign Parchment Page --------------------------------------------------------------------------------View Parchment Page Generation IV The Family of Louis Séguin and Marie Anne RaizenneLouis Séguin (8 Apr 1712, Boucherville, Québec - 13 Jul 1763, Grand Détroit, Québec) married Marie Anne Raizenne (1719, Québec - 27 Mar 1787, Oka, Québec) on Sunday, 8 Apr 1736, at the Church of Our Lady of Loretto (now called the Church of the Annonciation), in Lac des Deux Montagnes (present-day Oka), Québec). Louis Séguin, born 8 Apr 1712, in Boucherville, QC, and baptized in the parish of Ste Famille, was the eldest son of Jean Baptiste Séguin and Genevieve Barbeau. His baptismal entry is recorded as follows and contains the names of his godparents, Louis Reguindeau and Marie Veronneau: L’an mil sept cent douze le neuvieve jour d’avril, je pretre soussigne faisant les fonctions curiales dans la paroisse de la Ste Famille de Boucherville, ai baptise Louis, né le jour précédent de Jean Baptiste Séguin et de Genevieve Barbot son épouse. Le parain a été Louis Reguindo, la maraine Marie Veroneau qui ont déclaré ne savoir signer de ce requis selon l’ordonnance.C. Dauzat ptre English translation: The year 1712, the 9th day of April, I the undersigned priest being the parish priest at the parish of Holy Family of Boucherville, baptize Louis, born the preceding day of Jean Baptiste Séguin and Genevieve Barbeau his spouse. The godfather is Louis Reguindeau, the godmother Marie Veronneau who declare as not being able to sign according to the ordinance.C. Dauzat, priest On his 24th birthday, 8 Apr 1736, Louis married 16 year old Marie Anne Raizenne in the church of the Annociation, Oka, QC. Marie Anne was the daughter of Ignace Raizenne and Elisabeth Nims, both of whom had been seized as captives in their childhood during the French and Indian raid on the New England village of Deerfield, Massachusetts on 29 Feb 1704. (As children they were originally named Josiah Rising and Abigail Nims but when baptized by the French, were given new names in honor of St Ignatius and Ste Elizabeth.) Since it is such an historically interesting story, I will depart momentarily from the story of Louis Séguin and Marie Anne Raizenne’s lives in order to share the tale of her parents. More About LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE:Education: 1736, Able to write.Fact 1: 1744, Marieville ?.Fact 2: 1752, concession # 49, Hudson.Fact 3: Major commander of Oka Fort..Occupation: Lieutenant de la Milice.Sources: April 08, 1736, PRDH, U. of Montreal, Que..More About LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE and M. ANNE RAIZENNE:Marriage: May 08, 1736, Oka, Que..Children of LOUIS SEGUIN-LADEROUTE and M. ANNE RAIZENNE are:
+FRANCOIS SALES SEGUIN, b. September 1740, Deux Montagne, Que., d. 1817, Vaudreuil, Que..
Leonardville, Ks
I just came across this site this morning. Looks like they will be adding alot of useful info from the past :)
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