Saturday, December 29, 2007

More on Josiah Rising and Abigail Nims

Ignace was originally Josiah Rising, son of John Rising and Sarah Hall (written
by the French as Jean Raizenne and Sarah Halle).

Marie Elizabeth was originally Abigail Elisabeth Nims, daughter of Godfrey Nims
and Mehitbale Smead (written by the French as Geoffry Nimbs and Mirabelle
Smeed).

Here is an interesting comment from another researcher about Josiah:
Josiah Rising was 10 years old when he was captures during the Deerfield raid.
He was living with his father's cousin, Mehuman Hinsdell, where he had been sent
after his mother died. She had died when he was about 4 1/2 years old. Josiah
was adopted by the catholic Iroquois at Sault au Recollet or Nouvelle Lorette
mission. He was given the name Shoetakani, meaning "we have removed his
welfare" or "his village has been taken from him". He was essential a slave.
Josiah was given a third baptism by a Sulpician priest missionary, who gave him
the names Ignace Raizenne. At age 20, Ignace (Josiah) chose to remain with the
Iroquois and the other Deerfield captives. Ignaces' protector, Abbe Maurice
Quere, was able to obtain Igance and Abigail's freedom. When they married, the
Abbe used their Indian names in the register. A translation of the "act" says
that Ignace and Elisabeth chose to renouce their natioin, remain with the
Christian Iroquois, and live as "sauvages". They settled at the newly formed
mission of Oka in 1721, where they recieved a large land grant. Ignace and
Elisabeth had at least 9 children, 1 who became a priest and 2 who became nuns.
Ignace (Josiah) and Elisabeth (Abigail)'s children: Marie Madeleine the eldest
(Soeur St. Herman), Amable Simon (priest), Marie Anne m. Louis Seguin dit
Laderoute, Catherine m. Jean Baptiste Seguin dit Laderoute, Anastasie Charlotte
1m. Jean Baptiste Sabourin and 2m. Pierre Castonguay, Suzanne m. Joseph Chenier,
Marie (Soeur St. Ignace), Jean Baptiste "Satewas"* Jerome m. Marie Charlotte
Sabourin (sister to Jean Baptiste), and ? Joseph.
* "Satewas" meant "that is equal", refering to father and son as alike. He was
made a chief. Two of his sons became priests and 5 daughters became nuns.

Here is the comments about Abigail:
Abigail was 4 years old when she was taken captive during the Deerfield raid.
She was adopted into the cabin of the chiefs of the Bear family at the Sault au
Recollet mission. She was supervised by Gonastarsis, wife of one of the
chiefs. The Indians named her Touatogouach, meaing "she draws some water". At
the mission, she was baptized. That baptism record lists her birthday as Jun
11, 1700. It gives her name as Abigail, now called Marie Elisabeth, and her
parents as Godfrey Nims (shoemaker) and Meatball Speed, both deceased. It is
thought that an Albany Indian, Elewacamb, brought Abigail back to Deerfield. A
ransom was paid to the Indian, but it appears that Abigail did not stay in
Deerfield as she is not in any of the records. She made her way back to the
Iroquois. Relatives tried to redeem her in 1713-1714, but she chose to remain
in Quebec at age 14. Abigail's marriage act used her Iroquois Indian name. In
the resources by Tanguay and in the PRDH, she is listed as Elisabeth Steben.
This lead to some confusion over who her parents really were.

my NOTE:
Some sources say she was the daughter of John Stebbins. Her father died on the
way to Canada and she may have been "adopted" by John Stebbins. She was later
known as Marie Elizabeth Stebenne.

Descendants of Josiah Rising

1 Josiah Rising aka: Ignace Shoentakouani Raizenne b: Abt. 1693 d: Abt. Dec
1771 Lac des Deux Montagnes, Quebec
- +Abigail Elizabeth Nims aka: Marie Elizabeth Stebbins b: Jun 11, 1700
Deerfield, Franklin Co, Massachusetts d: Jan 03, 1747 Oka, Deux Montagnes,
Quebec
--- 2 Marie Raizenne d: Deceased
--- 2 Marie Catherine Raizenne d: Deceased
------- +Jean Baptiste Seguin dit Laderoute aka: Jean Baptiste Seguin d: Bef.
Mar 17, 1749
--- 2 Suzanne Raizenne d: Deceased
------- +Joseph Chenier d: Deceased
--- 2 Marie Madeleine Raizenne aka: Sister St. Herman b: Abt. Sep 1716 d: May
28, 1796
--- 2 Simon Raizenne b: Sep 18, 1719
--- 2 Marie Anne Raizenne b: Abt. 1720 d: Abt. Mar 1787
------- +Louis Seguin d: Deceased
--- 2 Charlotte Anastasie Raizenne aka: Anastasie Charlotte Raizenne b: 1728
d: Oct 29, 1798 Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebec
------- +Jean Baptiste Sabourin b: May 07, 1720 d: Deceased
--- *2nd Husband of Charlotte Anastasie Raizenne:
------- +Pierre Guay aka: Pierre Castonguay b: Nov 27, 1729 d: Deceased
--- 2 Jean Baptiste Jerome Raizenne aka: Ignace Raizenne b: Sep 30, 1740 Oka,
Deux Montaines, Quebec d: Abt. Feb 1795
------- +Marie Charlotte Sabourin aka: Marie Elizabeth Charlotte Sabourin b:
Feb 15, 1741 Lac des Deux Mongtagnes, Oka, Quebec d: Deceased

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Picard Family Reunion 2001 (French and English):
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~picard/PicardFamilyReunion2001.html
Picard Surname Homepage:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~picard/Index.html

Rouleau obits

DONALD P. ROULEAU, 64, of Michaele Avenue, Plattsburgh, died Nov. 16, 2005, at the CVPH Medical Center in Plattsburgh.

He was born in Canada on Aug. 17, 1941, son of Emile Rouleau and Jeannette Turgeon.

Calling hours will be Saturday from 1 to 3 p.m. at the Brown Funeral Home in Plattsburgh. A funeral service will be held Saturday at 3 p.m. in the Brown Funeral Home Chapel. Following cremation, burial will be in Canada.

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Alphadge E. "Al" Rouleau
TROY, N.Y. -- Alphadge E. "Al" Rouleau, 80, of Dunham Street, beloved husband of over 57 years of Eva (LaBarge) Rouleau of Troy, entered into eternal life at St. Mary's Hospital in Troy on Saturday, March 4, 2006.

Born on Nov. 20, 1925, in Plattsburgh, he was the son of the late Edward and Emma (Corron) Rouleau and was a graduate of St. Peter's School and Mt. Assumption Institute, both in Plattsburgh.

He was a U.S. Army veteran of World War II and earned the European African Middle Eastern Campaign Medal, Good Conduct Medal and the World War II Victory Medal.

Mr. Rouleau retired as a Heat Treater Supervisor from the Watervliet Arsenal where he had been employed for over 32 years and still found the time to be a dedicated husband and father. He had also been employed by the Tri-City Valleycats.

He was a communicant, former trustee and bingo chairman of St. William's Church in Troy as well as a former member of the Watervliet Elks.

Beloved husband of Eva; devoted father of Sue E. (J. Michael) Mullahey of Brunswick and Stephen E. (Lynn) Rouleau of Troy; brother of the late Aural Rouleau; cherished grandfather of J. Michael Mullahey Jr. of Brunswick, Nicole Rouleau of Troy, Eric Rouleau of Watervliet and the late Mandy L. Mullahey; loving great-grandfather of Zachary and Anthony Mullahey and his adored "peanut," Marrisah Mullahey, all of Troy; also survived by several nieces, nephews and cousins.

Funeral will be held on Wednesday morning at 9 a.m. from the John J. Sanvidge Funeral Home (Corner of Fourth Avenue and 115th Street), Lansingburgh, thence to Our Lady of Angels Chapel at Siena College in Loudonville, where at 10 a.m. the Mass of Christian burial will be celebrated.

Relatives and friends are invited and may call at the funeral home on Tuesday from 4 to 8 p.m.

Interment with military honors will be held at St. Agnes Cemetery, Menands.

Funeral arrangements have been entrusted by the family to the John J. Sanvidge Funeral Home, Inc., 565 Fourth Ave., Troy, NY 12182. 518-235-0952.

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Seguin Obits

**MEMORIAL MASS**

AUSABLE FORKS ? A Mass of Christian burial will be celebrated on Saturday, May 5, 2001, at 9 a.m. at Holy Name Catholic Church for those who died during the winter.

Individual burials at Holy Name Cemetery are as follows:

Esther Seguin ? 10:10 a.m.
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Faith S. Seguin, 84, of Wilfred King Road, Ellenburg Depot, formerly of Brainardsville, died Monday, Nov. 3, 2003, at the home of her daughter, Rosemary King, under the care of her family and Hospice of the North Country.

Arrangements are incomplete through the Chateaugay Funeral Home.

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Halsey J. Seguin
Saranac Lake, N.Y. ? Halsey J. Seguin, 88, of Charles Street in Saranac Lake, died Friday, July 19, 2002, at the Adirondack Medical Center at Saranac Lake.

He was born in AuSable Forks, N.Y., on March 13, 1914, the son of Joseph and Edith (Miner) Seguin.

Mr. Seguin was a veteran of World War II, serving in the U.S. Army.

He was a charter member and past commander of AuSable Forks Veterans of Foreign Wars and first commander of Champlain Counties Council VFW and also a member of the Albert Gonyea VFW Post 3357 of Saranac Lake.

He had been employed by the Grand Union Company for 46 years, retiring as manager in Saranac Lake on March 1, 1976.

He was a member and past Grand Knight of the AuSable Forks Knights of Columbus. He was a member of the third and fourth degree Knights of Columbus in Saranac Lake, Bishop Gabriels Assembly, where he was Faithful Navigator and Captain of the Honor Guard.

He was a communicant of St. Bernard's Church in Saranac Lake and a member of the parish council, head usher, Eucharistic Minister and a volunteer on the Bishop's Fund Drive. He was also a member of the Saranac Lake Adult Center.

He married the former Elizabeth Currier on Dec. 2, 1933. She died March 27, 1995.

He is survived by a brother, William Seguin of Utica, N.Y.; three sisters, Marion Seguin Darrah of AuSable Forks, N.Y., Elizabeth Rosio of Plattsburgh, N.Y., and Rita Hibbits of Louisiana; several nieces and nephews; and his goddaughter, Susan Crowningshield of Port Kent, N.Y.

He was preceded in death by a brother, Albert Seguin and a sister, Ruth Wolack.

Visitation will be at Fortune-Keough Funeral Home, Inc., on Tuesday from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. with a Knights of Columbus Honor Guard. A veteran?s service will take place Tuesday at 7:45 p.m. followed by a Bible vigil at 8 p.m. with the Knights of Columbus in attendance. A Mass of Christian burial will be held at 11:15 a.m. Wednesday at St. Bernard?s Church, with Rev. Timothy Soucy, pastor, officiating. A Knights of Columbus Honor Guard will form at the church. Burial will follow at Holy Name Cemetery in AuSable Forks.

Friends wishing to remember Mr. Seguin may make memorial contributions to the American Cancer Society.

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Jo-Ann Seguin
Peru ? Jo-Ann Seguin, 45, of Moore Drive, Peru, passed away Monday, April 28, 2003, at the Elizabethtown Community Hospital in Elizabethtown, where she had been a patient since March.

She was born in Massena on Oct. 24, 1957, the daughter of the late 0rrin and Elizabeth (Duprey) Seguin.

Jo-Ann moved with her family to Peru in 1986 and worked at Champlain Valley Industries. She enjoyed a great friendship with her service coordinator, Patty McMannis of Chazy.

Jo-Ann enjoyed life, it?s as simple as that.

Survivors include two brothers and one sister-in-law, Jody and Wanda and nephew Shaun of Peru and Jay of Pennsylvania; two sisters and brothers-in-law, Steven and Jan LaBounty and nieces Sacha and Sable of Peru, with whom Jo-Ann lived with for 8 1/2 years and Jackie and Ken Larche and their children, Joshua, Brianna, Colby and Jacob.

She was predeceased by her parents; and her brother, Jamie.

Services will be private and at the convenience of the family. Burial will be in St. Augustine's Cemetery in Peru.

Donations in her memory may be made to the family.

Arrangements are by the Hamilton Funeral Home in Peru
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Rollo (Rouleau) and Facteau (Facto) graves

Rollo:
E2: Ellenburg New Roman Catholic Cemetery
Ellenburg, Clinton County, New York
ROLLO
Henry ROLLO / 1863 - 1948 /
Melinda LABARG / His Wife / 1864 - 1937 /
Eli ROLLO / 1899 - 1926 /
Eva ROLLO / Wife of / Joseph FORTIN / 1893 - 1926 /
Eddie / 1896 - 1932 /
Headstone: Eli /
Headstone: Mother /
Headstone: Father /
Headstone: Eva /

TAYLOR
TAYLOR - ROLLO /
1860 Dolph TAYLOR 1925 /
His Wife / 1869 Minnie ROLLO 1952 /
1896 Elmer TAYLOR 1955 /
Charles ROLLO /
His Wife / Frizilda HEBERT /
Charles Benjamin /
Mary PELKEY /
Headstone: Elmer TAYLOR / 1896 - 1955 /
Headstone: Minnie TAYLOR / 1869 - 1952 /
Headstone: Dolph TAYLOR / 1860 - 1925 /

E6: St. Edmund's Cemetery
Ellenburg Center, Clinton County, New York

ROLLO
(front)
Charles ROLLO / Died / Aug. 7, 1898 / AE. 62 Y'rs. /
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(left)
Dora ROLLO / Died / Apr. 30, 1908, / AE. 8 Ys. /
------
(right)
Nelson ROLLO / Died / Oct. 30, 1922, / AE. 47 Ys. /

Then notice that Isaac Seguin and Mary Rollo are listed below Charles/Dora/Nelson Rollo

FACTEAU:
E1: Ellenburg Corners Cemetery
Ellenburg, Clinton County, New York

DOODY
DOODY /
ALmon / 1849 - 1940 /
Eliza FACTEAU / His Wife / 1862 - 1915 /

E2: Ellenburg New Roman Catholic Cemetery
Ellenburg, Clinton County, New York

SEGUIN
SEGUIN /
Helena / 1923 - 1928 /
Joseph / 1888 - 19 /
Minnie FACTEAU / His Wife / 1887 - 19 /

M4: St. Anne's Cemetery
Mooers, Clinton County, New York

FACTEAU
Aldea FACTEAU / 1877 - 1952 /

FACTEAU
Nelson FACTEAU / June 1, 1880 / Jan. 16, 1957 /


FACTO:
E7: Sheldon Hill Cemetery
Ellenburg, Clinton County, New York

FACTO
Peter FACTO / Died / Oct. 19, 1911, / AE. 71 Ys. /

PE9: St. Augustine Roman Catholic Cemetery
Peru, Clinton County, New York

FACTO
(front)
Nelson F. FACTO / 1881 - /
Rose FACTO / 1889 - /
Abram B. FACTO / 1887 - 1902. /
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(back)
Nelson FACTO / 1844 - 1892 /
His Wife / Denise BLAIR / 1859 - 1895 /
Margret (sic) /
Eddie /

Clinton County, New York Tombstone Transcriptions

This is a great site where I found all the cemetery listings in Clinton Co. Click on the link above, then click the cemetery and they have the tombstone transcriptions, alphabetically.

Houle and Seguin cemetery lists

Found some Houle's and Seguin's buried here:

Houle:
CM13: St. Patrick's R.C. Cemetery-Rouse's Point
CZ12: St. Josephs R.C. Cemetery-West Chazy
E2: New R.C. Cemetery-Ellenburg Corners
M4: St. Anne 8 R.C. Cemetery-Mooers Forks
PL13: St. James R.C. Cemetery-Cadyville

Seguin:
AU12: St. Johns R.C. Cem-Keeseville
CM6: Maple Hill Cem-Rouse's Point
CM11: Prospect Hill R.C. Cem-Village of Champlain
CM13: St. Patrick's R.C. Cem-Rouse's Point
E2: New R.C. Cem-Ellenburg Corners
E6: St. Edmund 8 R.C. Cem-Ellenburg Corners

Next step: follow up research on the listed cemeteries.

Found: Seguin's in AU12
SEGUIN
Peter SEGUIN / Born / Apr. 12, 1826, / Died / Apr. 9, 1902. / AE. 76 Yrs. /
May his soul rest in peace. Amen. /

SEGUIN
Mother / (on base)
Kate BROCKNEY / Wife of / Peter SEGUIN, / Died / May 26, 1887, / AE 49 Yrs. /
May her soul rest in / Peace /

SEGUIN
Pierre SEGUIN Jr. / Décédé / May 24, 1938 / Age 82 Ans. /
Marie PERRON / Epouse de / Pierre SEGUIN Jr. / Décédé3 / Aout 23, 1905. / Age, 44 Ans /

SEGUIN
George Philip / Son of Peter & Mary / SEGUIN, / Died / Mar. 23, 1890, / Aged 3 Yrs. / 3 Mos & 3 Ds. /
Gone but not forgotten. /

SEGUIN
Mary Minnie / Dau. of / Peter & Mary / SEGUIN, / Died / Mar. 19, 1890, / Aged 11 Yrs / 19 Days. /
May her soul rest in Peace /

SEGUIN
Harriet, / Daughter of / Peter & Catharine (sic) / SEGUIN, / Died / Apr. 25, 1855, / AE. 11 Mo's. & 1 D. /

CM6:
SEQUIN (Lot #44)
Peter A. SEGUIN Jr. / 1884 - 1937 /

CM11:
TROMBLY
(front)
William / TROMBLY / Died / July 31, 1892, / AE. 77 Ys. /
Louisa / SEGUIN / His Wife / 1822 -1 914. /

CM13:
SEGUIN
Philias. / Son of / P. & E. SEGUIN / Died Jul. 18, 1881 / AE. 2 Ms. & 7 Ds. /

SEGUIN
(east)
Mary BESSETTE / Wife of / William SEGUIN / Died Nov. 23, 1904, / AE. 63 Ys. /
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(south)
Oliva. / Died Jun 21, 1875. / AE. 5 Ys. & 5 Ms. /
Thomas. / Died Jun 28, 1875. / AE. 9 Ms. & 13 Ds. /
George. / Died Jun 22, 1882. / AE. 14 Ys & 8 Ms. /
Georgina. / Died Apr 25, 1885. / AE. 1 Yr & 1 Mo. /
Children of Wm. & M. SEGEUIN /
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(north)
Delima. / Died Aug. 11, 1865. / AE. 9 Ms. /
Lea. / Died Jun 21, 1875. / AE. 3 Ys. & 2 Ms. /
Malvina. / Died Jul 23, 1875. / AE. 2 Ys. & 9 Ms. /
Josephine. / Died Nov. 29, 1884. / AE. 6 Ys. & 7 Ms. /
Children of / Wm & M. SEGEUIN. /

SEGUIN
SEGUIN /

SEGUIN
Pierre / 1858 - 1946 /

SEGUIN
Clemence / 1857 - 1947 /

SEGUIN
Bertha E. / 1897 - 1944 /

SEGUIN
George A. / 1885 - 1946 /

(NOTE: five above all one lot)


SEGUIN
SEGUIN /

SEGUIN
Reney A. SEGUIN / 1896 - 1917. / Flying Cadet, A.S.S.E.R.C. / Killed ... (TYPIST'S NOTE: the rest of the information is missing from the bottom of my photocopy.)

CM13 Houle:
GEBO
GEBO - HOULE /
Mother / Angeline M. / Sept. 25, 1878 / Sept. 25, 195? /
Son / Ernest H. / Dec. 8, 1911 /

CZ12: Houle:
DOMINY
DOMINY /
William / 1911 - 1962 /
Evelyn HOULE / 1921 His Wife /

E2: Houle:
HOULE
Father / Nelson HOULE / 1892 - 1945 /

M4: Houle
HOULE
Delia HOULE / 1875 - 1941 /

HOULE
Louis HOULE /

PL13: Houle
PROVOST
PROVOST /
Donald E. PROVOST / New York / Sgt Co. L 3 Ord Tng Bn / Korea PH / April 20, 1931 July 22, 1958 /
Ross D / 1902 - /
Nora HOULE / His Wife / 1908 - /
Donald E. / Their Son / 1931 - 1958 /

E2: Seguin
SEGUIN
SEGUIN /
Helena / 1923 - 1928 /
Joseph / 1888 - 19 /
Minnie FACTEAU / His Wife / 1887 - 19 /

E6: Seguin
SEGUIN
(front)
Isaac / SEGUIN / Died / Sept. 24, 1910, / AE. 52 Ys. /
Mary ROLLO / His Wife / 1865 - 1950 /
Wilfred / 1908 - 1919 /
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(back)
Lena V. / Died / Mar. 30, 1901, / AE. 15 Ms. /

SEGUIN
Clayton F. SEGUIN / Born Feb. 21, 1929 / Died July 10, 1949 /

SEGUIN
Edmund W. SEGUIN / Born July 3, 1904 / Died Nov. 16, 1949 /


And I found some Rollo's in this last cemetery which reminds me to go back and search for Rouleau's (Rollo)

E6: Rollo
ROLLO
(front)
Charles ROLLO / Died / Aug. 7, 1898 / AE. 62 Y'rs. /
------
(left)
Dora ROLLO / Died / Apr. 30, 1908, / AE. 8 Ys. /
------
(right)
Nelson ROLLO / Died / Oct. 30, 1922, / AE. 47 Ys. /

Friday, December 28, 2007

A publication to check out

I came across this publication at the Clinton County Genealogy Library, it is Seguin Family of France and Canada written by Barbara Seguin.
She also has written Huguenots-A Chronological History

Wednesday, December 26, 2007

Houle (Houde) website

Not sure if my Houle's can be linked to this family BUT I do have a Boucher in my line so something to investigate.

Wednesday, December 19, 2007

Josephine Neveu Rouleau

I was able to find Josephine on the US Fed Census for 1870,1880,1900,1910 and 1920.
1870: spelled Raono
Caroline Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1869 New York White Female


Charles Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1839 Canada White Male

Henry Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1864 Canada White Male


Josapherve Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1840 Canada White Female


Josephine Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1862 Canada White Female


Mary Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1866 New York White Female


1880 census:

Name: Josephine Roolo
Home in 1880: Altona, Clinton, New York
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Father's birthplace: Canada
Mother's birthplace: Canada
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Keeping House
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female

Household Members: Name Age
Charles Roolo 43
Josephine Roolo 40
Josephine Roolo 19
Henery Roolo 16
Mary Roolo 15
Minnie Roolo 10
Charles Roolo 8
Nelson Roolo 5
Malinda Roolo 2
Caroline Roolo 11M

1900 Census:

Name: Josephine Rolo
Home in 1900: Altona, Clinton, New York
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Birthplace: Canada French
Relationship to head-of-house: Mother
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nelson Rolo 25
Addie Rolo 23
Eddie Rolo 4
Emma Rolo 2
Dora Rolo 8.12
Josephine Rolo 62
Minnie Facto 12
Fred Rolo 18

1910:

Name: Josephine Rolo
Home in 1900: Altona, Clinton, New York
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Birthplace: Canada French
Relationship to head-of-house: Mother
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nelson Rolo 25
Addie Rolo 23
Eddie Rolo 4
Emma Rolo 2
Dora Rolo 8.12
Josephine Rolo 62
Minnie Facto 12
Fred Rolo 18


1920:

Name: Josephine Rollo
Home in 1920: Altona, Clinton, New York
Age: 81 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Father's Birth Place: Canada
Mother's Birth Place: Canada
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: Un
Able to read: Yes
Image: 553
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nelson Rollo 45
Addie Rollo 43
Frank Rollo 18
Isaac Rollo 13
William Rollo 11
Elsie Bosley 12
Josephine Rollo 81

Monday, December 17, 2007

Mary Rouleau's marriage to Isaac..finally something!

West Boylston MA, Marriage [Vol 471, Pg 549]
16 Jan 1897...Mary Facteau [mn Roulean/Rouleau], 32, res:Boylston[S.Mills], b: Ellenburg NY, p: Charles / Delphine Newen/Neven/Neweu/Neveu [hard to tell], Second Marriage AND Isaac Seguin, 39, res:Fitchburg, b:Canada, p:Julien/Angele St. Amant, Second marriage

Linking Rouleau's

Someone once told me that they believe Melindee Roulee (Isaac's first wife) and Mary Rouleau (Isaac's second wife) were related, possibly cousins, makes sense. I've not found yet where they are related but I guess that is my new mission. If you've stumbled on this post because you were searching for any info on Mary/Melindee Rouleau, please let me know what you have!

Here is the record of marriage for Isaac and Melindee:



Translation:
Name: Melendie Rouleau
Birth Place: St Jean Chrysostom Que
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Father Name: Jbt Roleau
Mother Name: Emelie Leclaire
Spouse Name: Isaie Seguin
Spouse's Age: 22
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Spouse Birth Place: South Plantagenet
Spouse Father Name: Julien Seguin
Spouse Mother Name: Angele Stamant
Marriage Date: 13 Oct 1884
Marriage Place: Prescott
Marriage County: Prescott

Saturday, December 15, 2007

Some more ROULEAU possibilities

Caroline Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1869 New York White Female
View Record

Charles Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1839 Canada White Male
View Record

Henry Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1864 Canada White Male
View Record

Josapherve Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1840 Canada White Female
View Record

Josephine Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1862 Canada White Female
View Record

Mary Raono Altona, Clinton, NY abt 1866 New York White Female
This is Ancestry's index. On Heritage Quest the family in indexed as ROONO. Same place in 1880 indexed on Ancestry as ROOLO.

Thursday, December 13, 2007

Descendents of Godfrey Nims

If you are a descendent of Godfrey Nims, please join the site by clicking the above link. You will be asked to send me a message for membership. Thank you :)

Godfrey Nims



Godfrey Nims Boulder Dedication, August 13, 1914. L-R, Norris G. Nims, Ruth M. Nims, Charlotte S. Nims, Estelle C. Nims, and Charlotte's mother, Emma B. Nims.

Tuesday, December 11, 2007

Some Nims Graves

Old Deerfield Cemetery

SUBMIT, dau of JEREMIAH AND MARY NIMS....born and died July (16?), 1754


MARY, wife of ABNER NIMS, died Oct. 26, 1771, aged _6 (56?)



John Nims, died Dec 29, 1762, aged 83

John Nims House-1740 Deerfield, MA

Louis Seguin-Laderoute

Born: 8 Apr 1712, Boucherville, Montréal, Québec, Canada
Marriage: Marie Anne RAIZENNE-SHOENTAKOUANI on 8 May 1736 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada
Died: 13 Jul 1763, Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada at age 51

General Notes:

The Family of Louis Seguin and Marie Anne Raizenne

Louis Seguin (8 Apr 1712, Boucherville, Quebec - 13 Jul 1763, Grand Detroit, Quebec) married Marie Anne Raizenne (1719, Quebec - 27 Mar 1787, Oka, Quebec) on Sunday, 8 Apr 1736, at the Church of Our Lady of Loretto (now called the Church of the Annonciation), in Lac des Deux Montagnes (present-day Oka), Quebec).

Louis Seguin, born 8 Apr 1712, in Boucherville, QC, and baptized in the parish of Ste Famille, was the eldest son of Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau. His baptismal entry is recorded as follows and contains the names of his godparents, Louis Reguindeau and Marie Veronneau:

The year 1712, the 9th day of April, I the undersigned priest being the parish priest at the parish of Holy Family of Boucherville, baptize Louis, born the preceding day of Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau his spouse. The godfather is Louis Reguindeau, the godmother Marie Veronneau who declare as not being able to sign according to the ordinance.
C. Dauzat, priest

On his 24th birthday, 8 Apr 1736, Louis married 16 year old Marie Anne Raizenne in the church of the Annociation, Oka, QC. Marie Anne was the daughter of Ignace Raizenne and Elisabeth Nims, both of whom had been seized as captives in their childhood during the French and Indian raid on the New England village of Deerfield, Massachusetts on 29 Feb 1704. (As children they were originally named Josiah Rising and Abigail Nims but when baptized by the French, were given new names in honor of St Ignatius and Ste Elizabeth.) Since it is such an historically interesting story, I will depart momentarily from the story of Louis Seguin and Marie Anne Raizenne's lives in order to share the tale of her parents.

In 1703, the Marquis de Vaudreuil, the Governor of Nouvelle France, was convinced that an attack on the colony was likely to come from Boston. He named LeNeuf de Beaubassin in charge of an expedition, with Abenakis Indians, against the English coast from Casco to Wells. The following year, the English retaliated against the Abenakis. Consequently, Vaudreuil sent Hertel de Rouville as the head of an expedition made up of 250 French soldiers and Christian Iroquois and Hurons. On 29 Feb 1704, the small village of Deerfield, Massachusetts, situated on the Connecticut River, was raided. Ms. Elizabeth Marineau Liska, who wrote an article for The Genealogist, continues the story...

The small village of Deerfield, located along the Connecticut River in Massachusetts, was surrounded by a stockade and was inhabited by several hundred people. It was February and there was a great amount of snow cover, with some habitations almost covered over. In the fort there were twenty soldiers, provided by Governor Joseph Dudley of Massachusetts Bay.

During the night of February 28, the attackers, consisting of French soldiers, Iroquois and Huron Indians, approached the village. At dawn the attack was begun with a mighty war cry, surprising the villagers in their sleep. Doors were broken down, windows were broken and the victims were quickly floored by guns and hatchets. In minutes the disgraceful victory was won with almost no resistance. After the swift massacre, the village was completely destroyed by fire. Forty-seven known persons were killed, and 112 taken prisoners. Hardly had the sun risen on that winter day of February 29, the attackers were on their return to Canada. A few parties consisting of neighboring villagers pursued the fleeing invaders, but were unsuccessful.

The return trek to Canada [over the Green Mountains and through the snow wearing snow shoes] lasted 25 days, during which 12 prisoners died because of wounds, bad treatment, or the cold weather. Among the prisoners [who survived] were a 10 year old boy Josiah Rising [born 2 Feb 1694], and a small 4 year old girl, Abigail Nims [born 11 Jun 1700]. Along with Abigail, her mother Mehitable and a brother Ebenzer were also taken captive. Mehitable died on the journey to Canada. The Nims home had been in the stockade and later burned with three small girls. Abigail's brother Henry and sister Rebecca were among those killed.

Abigail was the daughter of Godfroi de Nismes, a French Huguenot [French Protestant] who first appeared in North Hampton, Massachusetts on September 4, 1667. He participated in Turner's fight with the Indians on May 18, 1676, and was a soldier in King Philip's War. He married a widow, Mrs Mary (Williams) Miller and lived in Deerfield, Mass. Mary died on April 27, 1688. On June 27, 1692, Godfroi (also Godfrey) married the widow of Jeremiah Hull, Mehitable Smead, daughter of William Smead. Godfrey had 11 children in all. A daughter, Thankful (Munn), escaped during the massacre because her home was hidden in the drifts of snow.

Josiah Rising, born February 2, 1694, was the son of John and Sarah (Hale), living in Suffield, Conn. The first American ancestor in this family was James Rising born in 1617, and a native of London, England. At age 18, he sailed on the "Dorset," September 13, 1635, landing near Bermuda. He then went to Salem, Mass. On July 7, 1657, he married Elizabeth Hinsdale, daughter of Robert and Anne (Woodward) Hinsdale of Boston, Mass. In 1662, James Rising and family moved to Windsor, Conn. where his young wife, Elizabeth, died on August 11, 1669. On April 2, 1673, James married Marthe Bartlett and settled in Suffield, Conn. In 1676, he bought a 50 acre farm for 16 shillings. A shilling was worth 25 cents. He was known as James Rysand," and it was under that name that he was buried on September 11, 1688.

Of James' first marriage to Elizabeth Hinsdale, a son John was born circa 1660. He married Sarah Hale on November 21, 1684; Sarah probably was the daughter of Timothy and Sarah (Barber) Hale. Sometime after his second marriage, John sent his son Josiah (born Feb 2, 1694) to visit his maternal grandparents in Deerfield, Mass. He could not know then that he was never to see his son again. John Rising had 18 children with his two wives. He died on December 11, 1720, about the age of 60. He bequeathed to his son Josiah in Canada (who would then be about 26 years old), the sum of 5 lbs in silver, payable up to three years after his (John) death, in case he [Josiah] returned from captivity.

With the arrival of the captives in Canada, Abigail was entrusted to an Indian woman, Ganastarsis, who was believed to be the wife of the Chief of Iroquois of Ours; while Josiah lived with his captor. These were Christian Indians, and did not mistreat their captives. The two young prisoners were formally adopted into the tribe in a special and significant ceremony, presided over by the great Chief. The warrior captor comes before the Chief with his captive, and is praised for his bravery. The captive is then officially given to the warrior as a slave. The slave is also given an Indian name. Josiah received the name "Shonatakak'ani" which translated to French was "il lui a ote son village" ["he was taken in his village"]. Abigail received the name "T'atog'ach," for which the French translation was "elle retire de l'eau" or "elle desenfle" ["she withdrew from the water"].

The priests of St Sulpice, missionaries at Sault-au-Recollet, considered the Protestant baptism received at Deerfield and that by the Indians insufficient, and proceeded on 11 Jun 1704 with the Catholic baptism. It was the third baptism for each. Josiah Rising was given the new name of Ignace Raizenne. Abigail Nims was also baptized and given the new name of Marie Elisabeth Nims.
Following is a translation of the baptism of Abigail:

"On Jun 15, 1704, the rites of baptism have been administered by me, the undersigned priest, to a little English girl named in her country Abigail, and now Marie Elisabeth, born at Deerfield in New England the (31 May O.S.) 11 June1700 of the marriage of Geoffroi Nimbs, shoemaker, and of Meetable Smeed also deceased. The child, taken at the said place 11th March last and living in the wigwam of a squaw of the Mountains, called Ganastasi. The godmother was Damoiselle Marie Elisabeth Lemoyne daughter of Messire Charles Le Moine, Ecuyer, Baron de Longueuil, Chevalier de l'Ordre de St Louis, and Captain of a company; with Francois Bounet who said he could not sign, inquiry having been made according to law. Mariel, priest"
/s/ Marie Elisabeth de Longueuil [witness]

Josiah was baptized similarly, and received the name Ignace.

In 1712, an attempt was made to ransom the children, then John Nims, Abigail's brother, came to Canada accompanied by Lieut. Samuel Williams. The children were not released, but Abigail's brother, Ebenezer, with his wife and their son were released. [By the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713, prisoners could obtain their liberty if they presented a request to either the Quebec, Trois Rivieres, or Montreal governments.] After the treaty of Utrecht in 1713 [nine years following the raid], the Governor M. de Vaudreuil proclaimed that all prisoners be redeemed. Many preferred to stay in their adopted homes and it was with much difficulty that their protector, Abbe Maurice Quere, obtained their release from the Iroquois Indians. Josiah and Abigail were placed in the Catholic Mission where, it is said, they were taught in the French, English, and Indian languages.

On July 29, 1715 [two years after the treaty], Ignace Raizenne (Josiah Rising) at the age of 21 years, married Elisabeth (Abigail Nims) who was 15 years old [at Notre-Dame de Lorette Church in Oka]. Following is a translation of that act:

"July 29, 1715, I have married Ignace Shoentak'ani and ElisabethT'atog'ach, both English, who wish [to] remain with the Christian Indians, not only renounce their nation but even wishing to live as Indians. In person [the presence] of Jean Baptiste Haronhiatek, Gabriel Tsirok'as, Pierre Asonthen, Alexis Tarhi. Ignace Shoentak'ani, about 23 or 24 years, and Elisabeth , about 15 years old. Both were taken at Dierfile, about 13 years ago.
Maurice Quere, priest"

In 1721, the mission of Sault-au-Recollet was transferred to Oka. Fr Quere was named there as the curate. The Raizenne family followed the missionary and the Sulpician Order gave them a vast property in the village of Oka. Two sons and six daughters were born to this couple. Marie Elisabeth Nims died at about age 46 and was buried at the mission cemetery on 3 Jan 1747. Ignace Raizenne died at age 77, on 29 Dec 1771 and was buried in the Chapel of the Kings at Oka.

Historic Deerfield, Massachusetts, is a recreated village, much like Greenfield Village is in Dearborn, Michigan, or Old City Park is in Dallas, Texas. Historic Deerfield can be visited at its
web site:

Historic Deerfield
-http://www.historic-deerfield.org/deerfield.html

Returning to the lives of Louis Seguin and Marie Anne Raizenne.....

Louis Seguin was one of the principle figures of the era. He was an rmy major of Vaudreuil, commander of the Oka fortification, a fur trader and owner of four concessions in the Cote de l'Anse, in the Vaudreuil seigneurie. In 1752, it was at Louis Seguin's residence that the Marquis of Rigaud and the engineer Louis Franquet stayed during the inspection of the fortified posts. It was also mentioned that Louis had four servants, which was rare at that time. In the fall of 1752, Louis permanently left Oka to stay with his family in Concession #49 above Grand-Detroit, where the community of Hudson is now located. He died on 13 Jul 1763, at age 51, and was buried in front of the altar in the Oka Chapel "Des Rois." Captain Lemaire (St Germain), Fr Macon de Thirlay (priest of the du Lac Mission), and Ignace Raizenne (Louis' father-in-law) all had the honor of being buried in the chapel.

In 1778, Louis' widow, Marie Anne, gave ownership of the family farm on Concession #49 to the Seigneur, the Marquis of Lothiniere, and she then returned to Oka. Marie Anne died at the age of 67 and was buried in the Oka local cemetery on March 27, 1787.



Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: Major in the Militia, 1763.



Louis married Marie Anne RAIZENNE-SHOENTAKOUANI on 8 May 1736 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada. (Marie Anne RAIZENNE-SHOENTAKOUANI was born about 1721 in Québec, Canada and died on 25 Mar 1787 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada.)

Jean Baptiste Seguin-Laderoute

Born: 10 Nov 1688, Boucherville, Montréal, Québec, Canada
Marriage: Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE on 7 Jun 1710 in Sainte Famille, Boucherville, Québec, Canada
Died: 13 May 1728, Montréal, Québec, Canada at age 39

General Notes:

The Family of Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore

Jean Baptiste Seguin (10 Nov 1688, Boucherville, Quebec - 13 May 1728, Montreal, Quebec) married Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore (21 Jul 1689, Boucherville, Quebec - 13 Sep 1773, Oka, Quebec) on Tuesday, 17 Jun 1710, at the Church of Ste Famille, Boucherville, Quebec.

Jean Baptiste Seguin, born on 10 Nov 1688 at approximately four o'clock in the afternoon at Boucherville, Quebec, was baptized on 12 Nov 1688 at the parish of Ste Famille in Boucherville. His godfather was Jean Baptiste Menard, an inhabitant of Longueuil, and the godmother was Catherine Menard of Ste Famille (Holy Family) parish.
Julien Beaussault was also present and was a witness.

The future bride of Jean Baptiste was Genevieve Barbeau dit Boisdore, daughter of Jean Barbeau dit Boisdore and Marie de Noyon. An extract from the Ste Famille parish register of her baptism by the Rev de la Saudrays is recorded below, and identifies her godparents as Jean LaFond and Marguerite de Noyon:


In late 1704, Jean Baptiste, who at the time is 16 years old, sees his older brother Francois, age 26 and named for their father, become involved in a protest against a tax on salt. The protest had its origins in the early governorship of Philippe Rigaud, Marquis de Vaudreuil. The irregularity of ships crossing the Atlantic and the high price of salt brought about the crisis. The colonists depended on salted meat and fish to get them through the winter. Fearing famine, a large crowd went to the home of a wholesale dealer who was known to have a large reserve of salt. Fr Belmont, the superior of the Sulpician order, went to meet the protestors to calm them. They had a petition asking the state to establish a lower price of salt, that other products from France be taxed to raise
money as opposed to or in addition to salt, and that the wholesaler be punished.

The Governor of Montreal, Mr de Ramesay, who was away at the time of occurrence, called on the wholesalers upon his return and convinced them to adopt a fair price. Fr Belmont sent a letter to all parish priests instructing them to read the letter at all masses, informing parishioners of the wrongfulness of mutiny. When General Governor de Vaudreuil learned of Ramesay's action, he told him he had exceeded his authority in fixing a lower price of salt. He rescinded Ramsesay's order with the salt merchants but did order the wholesale dealers to give back to the colonists any overcharge for salt. Vaudreuil was inclined to punish the protestors but he relented in this action after being persuaded by Ramesay and Fr Belmont to exercise forgiveness and leniency. Instead, Vaudreuil issued an order on 12 Dec 1704, prohibiting all residents from having meetings or they would face prosecution for sedition. The seigneurs and captains of militia were charged with ensuring the order was followed.

In the Fall of 1705, the same situation and fears arose again and a new demonstration occurred. Vaudreuil ordered the arrest of the noisiest protestors, and Ramesay executed the order. Consequently, Jean Baptiste's brother, Francois, a resident of Lachenaye, was arrested and placed in the Montreal jail. He apparently was released though, pending the commencement of an official inquiry.

On 26 Oct 1705, the Intendant, Mr Raudot, instructed his subordinate in Montreal, Sieur Fleury dit Deschambault to begin proceedings against the "rebels." Five days later, in a new order, he authorized an inquiry into the actions of Francois Seguin. Under the law, Francois was considered guilty unless he could otherwise prove his innocence, and was not allowed to be represented by a lawyer. On 31 Oct 1705, Deschambeault interrogated his prisoner, and also learned of an accomplice, Jean Baptiste Lapointe. Francois was questioned again on 25 Nov 1705. The following day, Intendant Raudot commanded that
Francois and Lapointe be arrested and taken to prison for further questioning. Francois, father of an 18 month old daughter, had to take leave of his wife, Marie Louise (Feuillon) Seguin, who was expecting their second child. On 8 Dec 1705, the two accused men were transferred to Quebec City to repeat their depositions asserting their innocence. In this system, Francois' two older brothers, Pierre (age 33) and Simon (age 31) were compelled to act as prosecution witnesses.

Christmas passed and on 4 Jan 1706, the proceedings resumed when Intendant Raudot ordered nine other witnesses to appear at the request of the prosecutor, Paul Dupuy. Finally, on 9 Jan 1706, the court rendered its verdict, concluding that both Francois and Lapointe were guilty of holding meetings to present a request to contravene the Governor General's ordinance of 1704. The court blamed Francois in particular as having "held seditious speeches which could entice those hearing them to revolt." Both men were fined 30 pounds sterling and were forbidden to violate the ordinance again. The punishment, imposed while Vaudreuil was governor, was considered light, and would likely have meant being sent to the king's galleys under the previous governor,
Frontenac. The Minister de Pontchartrain reproached Vaudreuil even as late as 20 Jun 1707 in a letter. He accused Vaudreuil of mildness and that more of an example should have been made of the two men, otherwise, the government would be seen as weak by the "rebels," who would likely continue such activities.

Thus ended the prosecutorial action of Jean Baptiste's brother. Was Francois a troublemaker or just a leader who did not hesitate to put his liberty in jeopardy to help his fellow citizens in their claim for what was fair and just? Such were the conditions and times that our direct ancestor, Jean Baptiste Seguin, lived in as he approached adulthood.

Four years later, on 7 Jun 1710, Jean Baptiste Seguin and Genevieve Barbeau were married in a ceremony performed by Fr Pierre Rodolphe de la Saudrays, at Ste Famille parish in Boucherville, Quebec. Together this couple forms Generation III of the Seguin family line. Their entry in the parish register is recorded:

On the seventh day of June 1710, having obtained dispensation of the banns from Mr. Colombiere, the grand Archdeacon and Vicar General of the Monsignor Bishop of Quebec, I the undersigned priest of Boucherville, married in the Boucherville church of Holy Family of Boucherville, Jean Baptiste Seguin, age 22 years, the son of deceased Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, and of Jeanne Petit his living spouse dwelling at Boucherville, with Genevieve Barbot Boisdore, age 21 years, the daughter of Sir Jean Barbot and of Marie de Noyon his spouse, inhabitants of Boucherville, and having given to them the nuptial blessing in the presence of Sir Boisdore the father of the bride, of Mr LaBaume, cirugien and royal notary, of Mr Tetro, school master, and Nicolas du Bray, witnesses and friends of the husband who have signed with me according to the ordinance.
R. de la Soudrays, priest
/s/ Barbot, Taillandier, Louyse de Noyon

On 25 Mar 1725, the first census of Vaudreuil conducted by Philippe de Rigaud, Marquis of Vaudreuil, counted 38 families, eight of which never settled to work and farm the land. Thirty families, however, settled on their concessions. Jean Baptiste was one of these first settlers and the date of his possession (Concession #15 of l'Anse) was prior to that of the Leger and the Poirier families, making Jean Baptiste's family the oldest of Vaudreuil Township.

He died 13 May 1728 at the Hotel of God at age 45 and was buried 14 May 1728 in an area east of Montreal called Chambly. Name mentioned in the burial register: M. Falcoz priest, Simon Monginos
(Mongeneau) bedeau and M. Julien priest.

Genevieve remarried on 18 Apr 1730 in Montreal to Charles Philippe Rolland, and they had a daughter, Genevieve Marguerite Rolland who died at the age of 2 (16 Dec 1730 - 26 Dec 1732). Genevieve at age 55, had a third marriage, to Jean Besnard on 3 Feb 1744 at Montreal. She passed away on 26 Dec 1732 and was buried at Oka, QC.



Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: Farmer of Giasson, 1717.



Jean married Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE, daughter of Jean Baptiste BARBEAU-BOISDORE and Marie DENOYON, on 7 Jun 1710 in Sainte Famille, Boucherville, Québec, Canada. (Genevieve BARBEAU-BOISDORE was born on 20 Jul 1689 in Boucherville, Montréal, Québec, Canada and died on 13 Sep 1773 in Oka, Deux Montagnes, Quebéc, Canada.)

Laurent Seguin

Born: Abt 1621
Marriage: Marie MASSIEU on 14 Jul 1643 in Saint Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France
Died: 22 Nov 1706, Senantes, France about age 85

General Notes:

The Family of Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu

Laurent Seguin (c. 1621, France - 22 Nov 1706, Senantes, France) married Marie Massieu (1622, France - 25 Oct 1650, Cuigy-en-Bray, France) on Tuesday, 14 Jul 1643, at the Church of St Leu and St Brice, Cuigy-en-Bray, France. She was the daughter of Adrien Massieu and Louise Beaudry. Their ceremony was performed by Fr Pouchard. Laurent and Marie were later inhabitants of the parish of Dombre, part of the Catholic Diocese of Beauvais, in what is now the Department of Oise, in the historic region of Picardie, France.

Today, in the French governmental structure, the region of Picardie (one of 22 regions in France) has within it three Departments (Oise, Somme, and Aisne). Under Napoleon, 96 Departments were established throughout the country. Beauvais (pop. 53,000) is the governmental center of the Oise Department, while Amiens is the regional capitol. The larger towns found in the Oise Department, include Beauvais, Compiegne, Senlis, Chantilly, and Ermenonville.

Beauvais is about 60 miles north/northwest of Paris in the north central area of the country. The communities of Cuigy-en-Bray (marriage of Laurent and Marie), St Aubin-en-Bray (baptism of their son Francois), and Ons-en-Bray (the apparent first home of Laurent and Marie) lie in a straight line (in that order) just west of Beauvais, along Road D-109, with Cuigy-en-Bray being the farthest west. The village of Senantes, the burial location of Laurent, lies just north of Cuigy-en-Bray.

The following marriage information, listing the names of the two witnesses, is an extract obtained on 27 May 1961 from the register of baptisms, marriages, and burials at the parish of St Leu and St Brice in Cuigy-en-Bray during the year 1643:

Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu le jour que dessus en presence du dit sieur vicaire, d'Adrian Desmellieres et Denis Tornant, lesequels ont signer avec les partyes le jour et an dessus dits.

Additionally, the following information pertaining to their family comes from an article by Robert-Lionel Seguin, published in Le Droit on 10 Sep 1965, and in La Presse on 24 Dec 1965.

Francois Seguin was born and raised in St Aubin-en-Bray, diocese of Beauvais in Picardie. He was born 4 Jul 1644, and his parents were Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu. He was named after his godfather, Francois Dufour [Oudin]. The Seguin and the Massieu [families] did not inhabit St Aubin-en-Bray. One may ask, why was their first born baptized at St Aubin-en-Bray while being designated at his marriage in 1672 as being from Ons-en-Bray? It seems that the clergyman happened to be temporarily passing through St Aubin-en-Bray and the parents took advantage of this situation to have their child baptized.

At Jamericourt [south of Ons-en-Bray], an hamlet neighboring St Aubin-en-Bray, Marie Massieu gave birth to a girl, Renee, on 19 Nov 1645. Her husband, Laurent, is designated as "clerc" or clerk, in that village and he also filled in the functions of magistrate and school teacher. Occasionally, he would even act as cantor during he religious ceremonies and help the parish priest with his church records and financial duties.

Because of missing registers, we lose trace of the family for a number of years. We locate it later on at Jouy-sous-Thelle [south of St Aubin-en-Bray], where a son, Pierre, was born 29 Jan 1648. [Another son, Laurent, is born in the same village on 10 Dec 1649.] Unfortunately, Marie Massieu dies at Cuigy-en-Bray on 25 Oct 1650 at the age of 28.

Whether Laurent remarried following his wife's death is unknown, although it seems probable since he lived to approximately 85 years of age. It is also reasonable to assume that at least one of his two other sons who remained in France (Pierre and Laurent) lived to adulthood, married, and had descendants. Today, the name Seguin is the 216th most commonly found surname of approximately 300,000 surnames in France.




Laurent married Marie MASSIEU on 14 Jul 1643 in Saint Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France. (Marie MASSIEU was born about 1622 in France and died on an unknown date.)

Francois Seguin-Laderoute

The Family of Francois Seguin and Jeanne Petit

Francois Seguin (4 Jul 1644, St Aubin-en-Bray, France - c. 1701, Quebec) married Jeanne Petit (1656, LaRochelle, France - 29 Mar 1733, Longueuil, Quebec) on Monday, 31 Oct 1672, at the Church of Ste Famille, Boucherville, Quebec.

The following is an extract from the register of baptisms, marriages, and burials of the parish of St Aubin-en-Bray, at St Aubin-en-Bray, France, and gives the date of Francois' baptism and the names of his parents and godfather and godmother:

Francois Seguin fils de Laurent Seguin et de Marie Massieu a este [le] 4e jour de juillet 1644 et a pour son parrein Francois Oudin et pour sa marreine Jehanne Dufour.

An account of Francois Seguin's life continues with the excerpt previously mentioned as being authored by Robert-Lionel Seguin.
Francois Seguin, who is six years of age at the time of his mother's death, will be taken in by his maternal grandparents with whom he lives until old enough to choose a trade. At that time [Dec 1644], troops are being levied by [the] regiment de Carignan for service in Nouvelle France [New France] to wage war against the Iroquois [Indian Nation composed of Mohawks, Oneidas, Sencecas, Onandagas, and Cayugas]. Francois, who is 20 years of age, joins the company of Monsieur [Captain Pierre] de St Ours [1640-1724] and embarks aboard the St Sebastien [ship] [on 13 May 1665 at LaRochelle], landing at Quebec, on 12 Sep 1665. The soldiers of that company will spend the following winter at the fort of Saurel (Sorel), at the mouth of the Richelieu River.

After three years of war, the company is finally discharged. As a reward, the officers are granted land with the title of seigneurs. Monsieur de St Ours [Sieur de L'Echaillon] was allocated a seigneurie on the Richelieu River and Francois Seguin obtains a fief on his officer's land. Later, Monsieur de St Ours, who finds he has financial trouble in his seigneurie, is designated by the governor to levy troops for the defense of Montreal [known at that time as Ville Marie] and he reorganizes his company. Many of his former soldiers join him, including Francois, who is still unmarried. He remains in garrison with his company for a few months but then returns to his farm at St Ours. [On 14 Sep 1671, at Boucherville, Francois leases for two years, a piece of land 50 arpents in area, belonging to Robert Henry. He also acquires a house to live in on the condition that he cut and clear two arpents of the land per year.] By trade, Francois was a weaver as were most of the residents of Beauvais, his native province. Therefore, whenever his farm work allows him free time and whenever there is a demand by the local peasants for his trade, he works as a weaver.

He must have dreamed of settling along the St Lawrence River because on 22 Sep 1672, he exchanges his farm at St Ours for that of Pierre Chaperon in Boucherville. [The new farm consists of two arpents in frontage by 25 arpents deep, and four square arpents have already been cleared. Is is bordered on either side by the lots of Gilbert Guilleman dit Duvaillars, former surgeon of the Carignan Regment, and Pierre Bourgery. On this same occasion, for the price of 85 livres, he also purchases a lot of one square half-arpent on which is situated a "barn which is found built there."] The deed is signed before the notary Thomas Frerot and it is followed by the sale of two or three lots from that same farm. His business transactions still leave him some time to do some socializing.

In fact, visiting a fille du roi, living with the Sisters of the Congregation, takes some of his time. Her name is Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and of Jeanne Godreau, native of the parish St Marguerite in the [western port] city of La Rochelle [France].

On 10 Feb, 1671, several months before the arrival of a new ship carrying eligible young women, Colbert writes to Talon, informing him:

I have also ordered that you be sent certification of the places where the girls are from, which will clearly make known that they are free and of marriageable state.

Jeanne Petit, the daughter of Jean Petit and Jeanne Gaudreau, in our family genealogy, was one of these "Daughters of the King". Born in1656, she was from the parish of Ste Marguerite in the town of LaRochelle, in the historic province of Aunis on the west coast of France. Possibly she was from a poor family but both she and her parents saw an opportunity for her to better herself through the king's dowry, or perhaps she was an orphan as some of the young women were. During the year 1671, Jeanne was one of 125 women to make the voyage across the Atlantic, and was among the 19 who went to the Montreal region. After her arrival in Quebec on the ship L'Esperance, Jeanne likely was taken in under the protectorship of the Montreal-based Sisters of the Congregation of Notre-Dame (who had arrived in 1653 under Soeur Marguerite Bourgeoys), until a prospective husband might propose to her. It is unlikely that the Ursuline Nuns (who had arrived in 1636 and were under the direction of Soeur Marie Guyard de Incarnation) cared for her since they were based in Quebec City.

Francois must have met Jeanne during this period and developed a love interest in her because on Wednesday, 21 Sep 1692, a marriage contract was drawn up between the two of them by the notary, Thomas Frerot. This was done the day before he exchanged his farm at St Ours for the one in Boucherville. It becomes apparent that Francois met and courted Jeanne, proposed marriage to her, had the contract drawn up, and then made the exchange of farms with the intent of settling in Boucherville with his future bride. The unusual aspect of their engagement is that when the filles du roi arrived in Quebec and were allowed to disembark in groups at Quebec City, Trois Rivieres, and Montreal, they were normally married within two weeks. This quick matrimonial process occurred because the women would be taken during that period to a hall where they could be observed and addressed by the soldiers or habitants. The filles du roi however, would question the men as to whether they had land, if any of it had been cleared, and if they owned livestock. The women held the upper hand and made the final decision as to whether they would consent to marriage. Since Jeanne was born in 1656 and arrived in 1671, but did not become engaged until Sep 1672, one might speculate that she was sheltered by the nuns for at least a nine month period until she turned 16.

The original marriage contract is on file in the Judicial Archives of Montreal and reads in French (complete with spelling errors):

[Signatures or the marks of the persons in attendance who are named above appear at the bottom of the document. Francois initially signs his name simply as "Laderoute" but draws a line through it and then writes
"Francois Seguin."]

One month and ten days following the notarization of the marriage contract (similar to a marriage license application and a promise to marry), the wedding day arrives. Seven years have passed since Francois first landed in Nouvelle France as a soldier with the Carignan Regiment. On 31 Oct 1672, Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, the son of Laurent Seguin and Marie Massieu, marries Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and Jeanne Gaudreau. The ceremony is performed by a
missionary priest, Fr Pierre de Caumont, at Ste Famille (Holy Family) parish in Boucherville, Quebec. According to Laforest, typically when a filles du roi would marry, "...the newly married couple was given 50 livres to buy provisions, plus an ox and a cow, two pigs, a pair of chickens, two barrels of salt meat, and 11 crowns of money. This was supposed to give the newlyweds a start. Together this couple of Francois and Jeanne forms Generation II of the Seguin family line.

The parish register of Ste Famille carries the marriage entry:

In the year of Our Lord, 1672, the 3lst of the month of October, after the proclamation of banns during three feast days at the celebration of the parish mass, having met no impediments, Pierre de Caumont, a missionary priest doing curial functions at Boucherville, after having done the necessary requests and interrogations to Francois Seguin, inhabitant of Boucherville, son of Laurent Seguin and of Marie Massieu, parish of Dombre in Picardie, diocese of Beauvais, and to Jeanne Petit, daughter of Jean Petit and of Jeanne Gaudreau, Ste Marguerite parish, town and diocese of LaRochelle, after having received their mutual consent, I, Pierre de Caumont, a missionary priest, married them in
presence of known witnesses.
/s/ Boucher, Remy, Jean la Fond

[The signatures of three witnesses who are present - Boucher, Remy, and Jean la Fond - appear at the bottom of the document. Seigneur Pierre Boucher for whom Boucherville is named and his wife, Jeanne Crevier, are notable witnesses to the ceremony, and shows the onsideration he had for Francois.]

On 25 Jan 1673, Francois sold the land he had acquired from Pierre Chaperon to Francois Senecal, a servant of seigneur Boucher. On this farm was "a house not completed." On 4 Apr 1673, Seigneur Boucher listed the 38 land grantees and Francois figured among them. He lived on a piece of land of 50 arpents (2 x 25 mentioned earlier), flanked by the lands of Jacques Menard and Pierre Martin. On 2 Jun 1675, Francois leased from Francois Pillet "a four year old brown cow valued at 60 lvres, which required Francois to feed the cow and any offspring and to pay Mr Pillet 12 livres per year. In the census of 1681, Francois declares his occupation to be a weaver, and with his wife, gives the names and ages of their first four children. On 10 Oct 1683, he leased a cow belonging to Denis Veronneau. On 24 Nov 1698, Francois sold his concession of 50 arpents [with a poor building upon it] to Jean Baptiste Lamoureux for 850 livres. Apparently immediate payment was made in 400 livres in playing card money, 200 in assorted merchandise, and 60 by the value of 20 minots of wheat. The remainder was due on the next feast of St Jean Baptiste, 24 Jun 1699. (The feast of St Jean Baptiste must have been a major holiday then even as it is today in Quebec.) On 15 Apr 1700, Francois and Jeanne are granted by Madame de la Valtrie the privilege of living on a strip of wooded land on the Ile Grosbois, along the channel. It is two arpents wide and deep [as far as the tip of the island, across from l'ile aux Raisins.] Francois, in addition to giving two work days each autumn, was required to take care of the donor's two cows. He and Jeanne lived together on this land until death. Francois originally was thought to have died 9 May 1704 in Montreal and buried on 10 May 1704 under the name of Pierre Seguin. Later research however, disclosed that marriage contracts of his daughter, Marie Madeleine, to Antoine Marie dit Ste Marie on 20 Nov 1700 (when Francois is shown as absent due to health reasons), and daughter, Marie Jeanne, to Joseph Robidou on 10 Oct 1701 (when Jeanne Petit is listed as a widow) prove that he did not die in 1704, but rather in the period of 20 Nov 1700 - 10 Oct 1701. His place of burial is unknown.

On 19 Mar 1713, Jeanne gave the concession of the Ile Grosbois, which she and Francois had originally received in Apr 1700, to Marie Anne Margane, the widow of Ignace Boucher. Jeanne then moved to Lachenaie to live with the third oldest of her children, Francois, who was 35 years old and married to Marie Louise Feuillon. Jeanne died on Sunday, 29 Mar 1733, and was buried in Longueuil, a community on the east side of Montreal.

On an interesting note, the author, Thomas J. Laforest, states in his book, Our French-Canadian Ancestors (Volume XXV):

When Pierre de Saint-Ours, former officer of the Carignan Regiment, drew up his will in 1704, he bequeathed "in case of death" 400 livres to the soldiers whom he had previously commanded. The name of Francois was mentioned in the list of beneficiaries. The seigneur died in 1724. [It is apparent that Saint-Ours was unaware of Francois' death which had already occurred around 1701.]



Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: Habitant, 1672.

Raid on Deerfield: The Many Stories of 1704

This is a great website translating what happened from beggining to end.

Francois Seguin-Jeanne Petit

Famille de FRANÇOIS SÉGUIN et de JEANNE PETIT
( ancêtres de la plupart des Séguin d’Amérique )



François Séguin Jeanne Petit
(fils de Laurent et Marie Massieu) (fille de Jean et Jeanne Gaudreau)

n 04-07-1644 Saint-Aubin-en-Bray n vers 1656 La Rochelle

Picardie, (Oise) Aunis (Charente-Maritime)

d «acte de décès introuvable» d 30-03-1733 Longueuil QC



m 31-10-1672 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

cm 21-09-1672 notaire Frérot



Enfants :

1. Françoise

n et b 01-11-1674 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

d 19 s 20-05-1751 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)

m 08-02-1694 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

c Charles Patenaude (Nicolas & Marguerite Breton)

2. Marie-Madeleine

n et b 16-08-1676 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

d 25 s 26-05-1753 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)

m 20-11-1700 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)

c Antoine Marie dit Ste-Marie (Louis & Mathurine Goard)

m 07-01-1704 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)

c François Achin (André & Françoise Piéton)

3. François

n 03-07-1678 Boucherville QC

b 03-07-1678 Pointe-aux-Trembles QC (L’Enfant-Jésus)

s 06-02-1727 Terrebonne QC (St-Louis-de-André)

m 22-02-1702 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

c Marie-Louise Filion/Feuillon (Michel & Louise Bercier)

4. Marie-Jeanne

n 09 b 11-08-1680 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

d 20 s 21-12-1749 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)

m 10-10-1701 Longueuil QC (St-Antoine-de-Pade)

c Joseph Robidou dit Lespagnol (André & Jeanne Leduc/Denot)

5. Pierre

n 24 b 25-08-1682 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

s 09-11-1760 Mascouche QC (St-Henri)

m 04-02-1704 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

c Barbe Filion/Feuillon (Michel & Louise Bercier)

6. Simon

n et b 24-09-1684 Pointe-aux-Trembles QC (L’Enfant-Jésus)

s 29-03-1758 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

m 09-11-1706 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

c Marie Bau dit Lalouette (Jean & Etiennette Loré)

m 11-11-1715 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

c Madeleine-Deborah Cole (Joseph & Marie-Catherine Serré)

7. Catherine

n 19 b 20-11-1686 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

d 16 s 17-01-1688 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

8. Jean-Baptiste

n 10 b 12-11-1688 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

d 13 s 14-05-1728 Montréal QC (Notre-Dame)

m 07-06-1710 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

cm 07-06-1710 notaite Tailhandier

c Geneviève Barbeau dit Boidoré (Jean & Marie De Noyon)

9. Geneviève

n et b 09-04-1691 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

d 16 s 17-07-1691 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

10. Joseph

n 10 b 11-08-1692 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

d et s 30-08-1692 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

11. Joseph

n et b 13-09-1694 Boucherville QC (Ste-Famille)

d et s 29-04-1753 Détroit MI (Ste-Anne)

m 12-04-1723 Détroit MI (Ste-Anne)

c Françoise Sauvage (Jacques & Marie-Catherine Jean/Vien)



Abréviations :

b baptême

c conjoint, conjointe

cm contrat de mariage

d décès

m mariage

n naissance

s sépulture

St Saint

Ste Sainte

1. 2. 3. 4. (etc.) enfants

(...&...) noms des parents

MI Michigan

QC Québec



André Séguin de Gatineau (QC) est le principal généalogiste de l’Association et responsable des recherches liées à cette page. Andre.seguin@infonet.ca

My direct Seguin Line

This is my direct Seguin Line broken down:

Isaie Seguin (Isaac) Great Grandfather
Married Mary Rouleau (Rollo)

Guillaume Julien Seguin (GG Grandfather)
Married Angele Andre St. Amant

Guillaume Amable Dit Laderoute Seguin (GGG Grandfather)
Married Josette Cadieux

Guillaume Seguin (GGGG Grandfather)
Married Marie Josephte Rouleau

Louis Seguin Laderoute (GGGGG Grandfather)
born: 8APR1712 Boucherville, Quebec
died: 13JUL1763 OKA, Deux Montagnes, Quebec

Married Marie Ann Raizenne

Jean Baptiste Seguin (GGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 10NOV1688 Boucherville, Quebec
died: 13MAY1725 Montreal, Quebec

Married Genevieve Barbeau

Francoise Seguin-Laderoute (GGGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 4JUL1644 St. Aubin En Bray, Picardie, France
died: 9MAY1704 Montreal, Quebec

Married Jean Francoise Petit

Laurent Seguin (GGGGGGGG Grandfather)
born: 1621 Cuigny En Bray, Beauvis, Picardi, France
died: 25OCT1650 Guigy En Bray, Beauvis, Picardi, France

Married Marie Massieu

More Rouleau/Seguin straightening

Just got this from Valeda (my great aunt) and this is a much clearer picture.

I think I've got this straight or straighter -

Mary Rollo was married to _____Facto/Facteau - children were Minnie and Eva.
Now, I'm not sure they were the products of the marriage or were
_____Facto/facteau kids from a
previous marriage. I tend to think they were the products of the
marriage because my grandmother was being taken care of by aunt
Minnie when she became very ill. And, she always called her MA but
then all the kids called her MA, whether they were her biological
kids or step kids. to go on.......

__________Facto Died.


Meanwhile, Isaac was married to Melinda Rouleau and had the 5 kids together.

Melinda died.

Mary Rollo married Isaac,and he brought his boys to the marriage;
Mary had Minnie and Eva, the new family of boys and produced the new
group, Henry, Edmund, Lela and Gertrude and maybe one or two that
died as children.

(Minnie Facteau married Joseph Seguin, one of Isaac's and Melinda's
kids) I knew them very well because we spent our summer in NY. My
mother always said my sister married my brother just to add to the
confusion. When she started to explain, we always through our hands
in the air and said, just too confusing. Now, everyone is gone so
there is no one to ask.

Just for your info. Henry, son of Isaac and Mary married my father's
sister, Lillian Houle. All the kids look alike because of the merger
of the same families. Twins June and Joyce are my age and we were
pretty close. to go on.........

Meanwhile, Isaac dies.

Mary marries ________LaBarge - no kids - too old - I don't remember
him but my sister does.

Now we are wondering if Melinda and Mary were sisters because Rollo
translates to french as Rouleau.

Also, reading the stuff you sent, we have my grandmother on my
father's side as being a Vondell -

wow - such confusion.

Monday, December 10, 2007

Mary Rollo-From Valeda

My grandmother: Mary ROLLO was born April 4, 1865 in Moers Fork, NY in Clinton County -died in May, 1950 - her parents were Charles Rollo and Josephine N. (Nephew) Rollo. My uncle Henry was born a mear two months after the marriage. So....ROLLO was her maiden name

- The Rouleau you refer to was Isaac's (my grandfather) first wife named Melinda Rouleau - she died at age 31 - Melinda Rouleau Seguin and Isaac had five children:
Joseph
(John) Edward
Alfred
(Joseph) Albert
Hermaline - lived to age 30
I knew all four men and visited them often as did they vist us - Edward, Alfred, Albert all lived near us.
Joseph lived in NY.

Isaac married my grandmother, Mary. She took in the boys and they had another 5 children.
Mary married a third time to LaBarge - no kids with this marriage/my brother said THEY WERE TOO OLD. I say, finally.

I do know that she was married to ??????????? and had children with 'whoever' - maybe a Fecteau or facteau - I think three girls. Not sure but sounds sort of familiar. Growing up, I could never get step or half siblings right. My mother went over and over it again & again - I think only she understood the family. I will have to ask my sister-in-law - the one in the nursing home who is my storehouse of information.
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Hi again - I think Mary's second husband was named FACTO - Minnie,
who married my uncle Joe, came with a father who married Mary (uncle
Joe was Isaac and Melinda's son) - Joe and Minnie were not related
but were step siblings - I am not sure if Mary had any children with
the Facto Husband - I do know that Minnie's maiden name was Facto -
she may have had other siblings - the ones who lived in Canada - It
all got really muddled when I was young because my mother called Joe
her brother and Minnie her sister/joe being her half brother and
Minnie being her step sister. Are you confused at this writing?

ISAAC SEGUIN - First marriage was to Melinda Rouleau - 5 kids
Second " was to Mary Rollo - 5 kids

MARY ROLLO - First - marriage was to Isaac Seguin - 5 kids
plus the 5 step kids
Second - " was to ???
Facto ?? kids plus ?? step kids
Third - " was to ???
LaBarge NO KIDS

Sunday, December 09, 2007

St. Edmund's Cemetery- Seguin

Lists Isaac, Mary Rollo and others

Angele Andre St. Amant married Guillaume Julien Seguin

Angele born 1822 unknown
Guillaume Julien Seguin born 1857 Curran, Ont
Married: August 1849 Coteau du Lac, Que.

Ontario GenWeb

Great site with alot of info for Ontario

Isaie Seguin

Isaïe Séguin (parents:Guillaume Julien & Angèle André)
n 01-11-1857 Curran ON
Mélindée Rouleau (parents:Jean-Bapt & Emélie Leclair)
n (?...)
m 13-10-1884 St-Isidore de Prescott ON
Children:
1. Willie M ary Jane
n & b 30-05-1885 St-Isidore de Prescott ON
2. Henry
m 12-06-1916 Ellenburg,NY
c Lilian Houle (Frank & Percy Vosestell)
3. Edward
m 17-04-1922 Ellenburg NY
c Albina Monette (John & Addie Comens)
n=born; c=spouse
Cette information est tirée du / This information comes from
Dictionnaire généalogique de l’Association des Séguin d’Amérique. If you have any missing information, please tell us!
Renseignements sur l’Association / Information on the Association : www.lesseguindamerique.ca .
«Force et Générosité» dans notre Amitié / «Force and Generosity» in our Friendship,
Raymond-J. Séguin #003, Association des Séguin d'Amérique

Revised Family Tree of Isaïe Séguin
Époux : Isaac Isaie Séguin #2743
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Naissance: 1 Nov 1857 à Curran, ON (St-Luc)
Décès: 24 sep 1910 à Ellenburg NY
Père : Guillaume Julien Séguin #256
Mère : Angèle André\St-Amant #257
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Épouse : Mélindée Rouleau #2752
Marié(e): 13 Oct 1884 à St-Isidore-de-Prescott, ON.
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Naissance: 5 oct 1864 à
Décès: 9 mai 1896 à Fitchburg, MA
Père : Jean-Baptiste Rouleau #2750
Mère : Emélie Leclair #2751
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F Enfant 1: Willie Mary Jane Séguin #46351
Naissance: 30 mai 1885 à St-Isidore-de-Prescott ON
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M Enfant 2: Joseph Séguin #49920
Naissance: 2 déc 1888 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: 0 ___ 1975 à
Conjoint[e] : Minnie Facteau #49921 n. 0 ___ 1887 d. 0 ___ 1950
Marié(e): 7 oct 1907 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 3: Edward Séguin #35413
Naissance: 29 déc 1890 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Albina Monette #35416
Marié(e): 17 avr 1922 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 4: Alfred Séguin #49922
Naissance: 22 fév 1892 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: 0 jun 1961 à Manchester, NH.
Conjoint[e] : Ethel Goodrich #49923
Marié(e): à
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M Enfant 5: Albert Séguin #49924
Naissance: 15 jan 1894 à Fitchburg, MA
Décès: à
Conjoint[e] : Minnie Colburn #49925
Marié(e): à
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Épouse : Mary Rouleau #49928
Marié(e): 16 jan 1897 à West Boylton MA
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Naissance: 0 ___ 1865 à Ellenburg NY
Décès: 0 ___ 1950 à
Père : Charles Rouleau #49929
Mère : Delphine Neveu #49930
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M Enfant 1: Henry Séguin #1099
Naissance: 27 mar 1898 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Lillian Houle #1100
Marié(e): 12 Jun 1916 à Ellenburg, NY.
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F Enfant 2: Lina Victoria Séguin #49931
Naissance: 9 jan 1900 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 31 mar 1901 à Ellenburg, NY.
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F Enfant 3: Lela May Séguin #49932
Naissance: 7 mai 1902 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 13 oct 1971 à Fitchburg, MA
Conjoint[e] : Harold Houle #49933
Marié(e): 20 oct 1919 à Ellenburg Depot, NY
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M Enfant 4: Edmund Séguin #49934
Naissance: 10 jul 1904 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 16 nov 1949 à Ellenburg NY
Conjoint[e] : Albina Monette #49935
Marié(e): 17 avr 1922 à Ellenburg, NY. (voir note 1)
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F Enfant 5: Gertrude Séguin #49938
Naissance: 1 avr 1907 à Ellenburg, NY.
Décès: 0 fév 1993 à Coeur d'Alene OH
Conjoint[e] : Edward Truchon #49939
Marié(e): 26 déc 1927 à Ellenburg, NY.
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M Enfant 6: Wilfred Séguin #49971
Naissance: 1908 à Ellenburg NY
Décès: 0 ___ 1919 à Ellenburg NY
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Note 1 on retrace un mariage à Mooers NY le 12 avril 1922


Isaac Seguin/Sequin had at least four children between 1888 and 1894 in Fitchburg, MA :Joseph b. 7 Dec 1888 - Oct 1975 Ellenbugh Depot, NY(social security death index); John Edward 28 Dec 1890;Alfred 22 Feb 1892 -16 June 1966 Manchester, NH (family information) and Joseph Albert b.15 Jan 1894.

Melinda died 9 May 1896 from a complication of pregency and he re-married the Mary (Facto/Facteau) Rouleau 16 Jan 1897 in West Boylston, MA. It was a second marriage for both. Mary was born in Ellenburg, NY according to their marriage record. A son Henry was born to the couple 27 March 1898 in Fitchburg, MA.

By 1900 the family is out in Clinton Co, NY where Mary and Isaac had several other children: Lessie b. June 1900 according to 1900 census, Lela b. abt 1902 (1910 census) who marries Harold Houle, Edmaund b abt 1905 and Gertrude b abt 1907.

Isaac seems to have died between 1910 and 1920 as he isn't with Mary on the 1920 census. Some of the boys signed up for the World War I draft and were living in Ellensburg in 1917, but by 1920 Mary, Gertrude, Edmund, Lela and her husband are in Easthampton, MA and also Isaac's son Alfred, clled Fred and his future wife, Ethel May Goodrich.

I hope this helps a little.

Kay Sheldon

Saturday, December 08, 2007

Guillaume Julien Seguin

Found on FamilySearch.org

Other Information:
Birth Year <1849>
Birthplace Q
Age 32
Occupation Cultivateur
Marital Status M
Ethnic Origin French
Head of Household Guillaume SEGUIN
Religion Catholique

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Source Information:
Census Place Ste-Marthe, Vaudreuil, Quebec
Family History Library Film 1375843
NA Film Number C-13207
District 75
Sub-district C
Division 1
Page Number 15
Household Number 99

SEGUIN

Source: The King's daughters among our Ancestors pps 477-478
Jeanne Petit daughter of the late Jean and the Late Jeanne Gaudrau of the parish of Ste Marguerite, LaRochelle, Aunis, France, she was born about 1656 and arrived in 1672. Died at Longueuil 29 March 1733. Married at Boucherville 31 Oct 1672 (Ct 21-09 Frerot) to Francois Seguin dit Laderoute, soldier with the compagnie St Ours of the Regiment de Carignan, arriving 12 Sep 1665, weaver, bpt 4 Jul 1644, son of Laurent and Marie Massieu of Guigny-en-Bray, Beauvais, Picardie, (Oise), France. died at Hotel Dieu of Montreal 9 May 1704. Established at Boucherville, 11 children.
1. Francoise b & bpt 1 Nov 1674 Boucherville; m Boucherville 8 Feb 1694 (Ct 7 Maugue) to Charles Patenaude or Paternostre, son of Nicolas and Marguerite Breton (Step-sister of King's Daughter Marie Saint Vie) 10 ch
2. Marie Madeleine dite Marie b & bpt 16 Aug 1676 Boucherville, md at Longueuil 20 Nov 1700 by contract before notary Raimbault, Sr. to Antoine Marie, son of Louis and King's Daughter Mathurine Goard; no children; widowed 23 Feb 1703. Second md at Longueuil 7 Jan 1704 (Ct 30-13-1703 Adhemar) to Francois Achin, son of Andre and King's Dau Fran
acoie Pieton; 6 ch
3. Jeanne b 9 Aug 1680, bpt 11 Aug Boucherville, md at Longueuil 10 Oct 1701 (Ct 09 Pierre Raimbault) to Joseph Robidou, son of Andre and King's daughter Jeanne Denot; 11 Ch
4. Pierre, b 24 Aug 1682 Boucherville; bpt 25 Aug Pointe aux Trembles md Boucherville 4 Feb 1704 (Ct 02 Tailhandier) to Barbe Feuillon, widow of Jean Baptiste Leber, daughter of Michel and King's daughter Louise Berchier; 9 ch
5. Simon b Boucherville bpt 24 Sep 1684 Pointe aux Trembles md ( nov 1706 Boucherville (Ct 09 Tailhandier) to Marie Bau, daughter of Jean and King's Daughter Etiennette Lroet; 1 child; widowed 9 June 1714. Second marriage at Boucherville 11 Nov 1715 (Ct 10 Tailhandier) to Madeleine Coal or COlle, daughter of Joseph and Sarah Randall; 6 children
6. Catherine bpt 20 Nov 1686 Boucherville d 16 Jan 1688
7. Jean Baptiste b 10 Nov 1688; bpt 12 Nov Boucherville; died at Hotel Dieu fo Motnreal 13 May 1728; married at Boucherville 7 Jun 1710 (Ct 07 Tailhandier) to Genevieve Barbeau, daughter of Jean and Marie De Noyon; 10 children
8. Genevieve b & bpt 9 Apr 1691 Boucherville; d 16 Jul 1691
9. Joseph b 10 Aug 1692 bpt 11 Aug Boucherville d 30 Aug 1692
10. Joseph b & bpt 13 Sep 1694 Boucherville; m Detroit 12 Apr 1723 to Marie Francoise Sauvage, daughter of Jacques and Marie Catherine Jean; 5 children

Third child was: Francois b Boucherville bpt 3 July 1678 Pointe aux Trembles m 22 Feb 1702 Boucherville to Marie Louise Feuillon, dau of Michel and King's dau Louise Bercier; 10 ch

Descendates of Jeanne Petit -pps478-479
(From dau Francoise Seguin md to Charles Patenaude)
Marie Madeleine Patenaude or Patenostre, bpt at Longueuil 3 Dec 1710; md at Longueuil 17 Nov 1732 to Joseph Lamoureaux, bpt at Boucherville 8 jan 1706, son of Adrien and Denise Veronneau;

Louis Lamoureux, md at Boucherville 22 Feb 1759 to Genevieve Vicnelet, dau of Nicolas and Genevieve Gareau;

Marie Josephte Lamoureux, md at Boucherville to Francois Hebert son of Antoine and Marie Anne Robert

Francois Hebert md St Constant, Laprairie, 26 Sep 1808 to Marie Genevieve Baudin, du of Pierre and Marie Genevieve Arcouet

Emerende Hebert, b. Laprairie in 1811 md St Constant, Laprairie, 24 Oct 1831 to Louis Bertrand, b 1798, son of Louis and Marguerite Lucas

Theophile Bertrand, b 1838, md St Antoine Abbe 16 Apr 1866 to Julienne Charland, dau of Jean Baptiste and Olvie Surprenant

Arthur Bertrand, bo 24 Aug 1881 St Antoine Abbe md at St Jean Bpatiste, Montreal 17 Oct 1904 to Catherine dite Katie Goyer, bo 17 Oct 1882, dau of Jules and Mary Kinge

Geroges Henri Bertrand, b 17 Nov 1909 Montreal; md St Vincent Ferrier, Montreal to Elsie Walsh, b 2 Jan 1912, dau of Joseph Patrick and Angeline Turgeon

Louise Kathleen Bertrand, b Sault au Recollet, Montreal d at Montreal 16 Jan 1965 to Frederick E Pomeroy, Jr. born in Salem, Mas, son of Frederick E and Idell Parker of Arlington Heights, Mass.

Louise is the author of the (now) 4 vol's of "The Kings' Daughters Among our Ancestors"

Thursday, December 06, 2007

Daily Life on a 18th Century Homestead

Daily life on an 18th Century homestead
Stephen Hume, Vancouver Sun
Published: Thursday, December 29, 2005
MAPLETOWN, New York -- Life on the frontier into which Simon Fraser was born in 1776 seems hard by the comfortable standards of the 21st Century.

Yet it was not the nasty, brutish and short experience that our technocentric culture often assumes as a validation of its claim to inherent superiority over the backward past from which it arose.

We have a good idea of what things were like in the world that greeted young Simon thanks to researchers from the New York State Museum and the University of the State of New York who scoured the historical literature for visual descriptions by eyewitnesses.




Their 1989 study of land use and settlement patterns for the small region of up-state New York across the border from Bennington, Vermont, and right next to what was once Mapletown indicates that were we able to drop into Simon's landscape by time machine we would find large but self-sufficient families like his living in close harmony with each other and the great rhythms of the natural world.

The personal labour of these families met most of their needs -- and everyone in the family would participate. They built their own shelter, produced their own food, made their own clothes, cleared their fields, tilled them and harvested the crops by hand, dealt with their medical emergencies at home and entertained themselves.

Men like his father, Simon Sr., and his older brothers William, in his mid-20s, and Angus, in his late teens, did the heavy labour of clearing and tilling land, building structures, cutting firewood, splitting fence rails, making furniture and farm implements and supplementing the larder by hunting and fishing.

"At the age of 22 I could cut an acre in seven days but as a general average men would be from seven to 10 days, particularly if several worked together," wrote Levi Beardsley in Reminiscences, a frontier memoir of the late 1700s that was published in 1852.

Women like Fraser's mother Isabella and his older sisters Margaret, about 20, and Isabella, 14, kept kitchen gardens and orchards, prepared and preserved food, churned their own butter, made soap and candles, spun thread from flax and yarn from wool and then wove, knitted and sewed the family's clothes. Young Simon's other brothers and sisters would help in minding him and toddler Nancy, tend the livestock and chop firewood. At harvest, everyone would pitch in.

German surgeon J.F. Walmus, who marched through the country with the British army in 1777, took particular note of the settlers he encountered there after the battle:

"They were all in bare shirts, had nothing on their bodies but a shirt, vest, long linen trousers which extended to the shoe, no stockings -- powder horn, bullet bag, rum flask and musket. They were all beautifully built men, of very healthy appearance and handsome figure. . ."

So, while life on an 18th Century homestead could be hard and certainly had its occasional perils, it apparently also provided its bountiful rewards, too.

Still, the landscape in which Fraser's early personality took shape would seem barely inhabited to the citizens of today's North America, almost all of us jacked directly into the globalized neural networks of urban life through road grids, public transportation, electrical utilities and the ubiquitous, near-instantaneous communications systems of radio, satellite-based television, cellular telephones, digital data flows and the Internet.

Just visiting a neighbour could be a major expedition in Fraser's time. These days even the most rural inhabitants are seldom more than a few hours drive from town services and no more than a day's travel from some metropolis or other.

For people living in the township where Fraser spent the first eight years of his turbulent young life, most roads were slightly widened trails that to us would seem barely discernible grassy openings in the trees. In heavy rains they quickly became impassable. Swollen creeks flooded and boggy areas became muddy quagmires. The only paving was corduroy -- logs cut into uniform lengths and laid out to form a causeway over soft ground -- and it was temporary.

Occasionally these faint tracks through the hardwood forests that still covered most of eastern North America from the Atlantic to the grasslands of the Great Plains would be defined by a snake fence and then the traveller would soon emerge into the ever-expanding clearing around a farmhouse and its outbuildings.

To clear land, a settler would first strip out the underbrush and lop the lower limbs off trees, saving himself the work of trimming them later. The first trees would be cut and used to build a dwelling, then ground would be cleared for vegetable gardens, finally the forest would be clearcut by hand to create fields for crops and pasture for livestock. In each field, a few veteran trees would be left standing here and there to provide shade for animals in the hot summers.

Virtually all the contemporary travellers' accounts cited in The New York State Museum's land use survey from 1777 indicate houses built of logs and chinked with clay although there were clearly a few frame structures since military accounts record that when Lieutenant-Colonel Friedrich Baum, commander of the German mercenaries at the Battle of Bennington, was mortally wounded and taken from the field, he lay dying in just such a house.

But most homesteads would begin as crude log shanties with a packed earth floor, thrown up hastily to beat the arrival of winter, the logs often unpeeled, the roofs made from flattened sheets of bark from birch or elm trees laid over pole rafters. Later the logs might be squared with an adze. The floor replaced with half-rounds laid flat side up, the roof replaced with hand-split shakes or shingles.

Windows were small. Conserving heat in winter was an issue and since most people rose at dawn, spent most of the day outdoors and went to bed at dusk, interior light was less important than today. Glass was a rare commodity, difficult to transport and hence expensive, so windows were often covered with oiled paper or animal skins scraped parchment-thin.

Tables, chairs and beds would frequently be made at home from the materials at hand. Cooking would be done in the family kettle -- a big cast iron cauldron hung in an open fireplace - or on a griddle over the open flame. Under the floor would be a root cellar for storing potatoes and preserves. Outside, a large barrel would capture rainwater running off the roof.

Around the house would be rough outbuildings for livestock, most of which would forage for themselves in the surrounding bush.

The livestock listed at the Fraser homestead seems typical -- ox teams for pulling wagons, sleds and farm implements, horses for long distance travel, cattle for beef and dairy products, sheep for wool and mutton. Chickens and their eggs would be too commonplace for mention.

Kitchen gardens tended by Simon's mother and siblings would provide vegetables and fruit.

"Contiguous to each house was a small garden in which squashes, watermelons and kidney beans were reared and a smaller orchard set with apple trees. Surrounding the houses were large fields planted with corn," noted Peter Kal, travelling up the Hudson River past Albany by canoe before settlement began in the uplands where the Frasers and the other Scots settled.

In a claim for compensation after the war, Isabella Fraser listed stores of corn and hay among the items looted by her rebel neighbours. Later accounts by both British and rebel soldiers talked of passing through fields of wheat and flax on their way to the battleground.

Many farmers sowed their fields with flax because it could be planted early in the spring and harvested by July or August. Flax provided fibre for making linen, linseed oil and animal feed. Hemp was used for making rope and fabric, as it had been since the medieval period.

And potatoes were a common crop. We know that because hungry German mercenaries scavenged for spuds in the field where many were to be slain the next day, even, said witnesses, tying off the ankles of trousers and filling them with the tubers when their forage bags were full.

The bodies of many of these same men would later be tossed helter-skelter into two large pits where the potatoes were stored during the winter months, their bones later becoming evidence in a 20th Century study of land use patterns from a sparsely documented past.




© Vancouver Sun 2005

Friday, September 07, 2007

Mary Rouleau

I think this is my Mary Rouleau, someone was so nice to send this info to me!

Following from Parish Ste Anne de Centreville Mooers Forks NY extracted by Virginia E. Demarce;
Rouleau, Maria Louise; Parentss: Charolus Rouleau & Delphina Neveux; Born: 23 April; Baptized: 14 May 1865; in Centreville; Godparents: Joachim Neveux & Maria Belouin.

Saturday, September 01, 2007

August Dombrowski (ggg grandfather)

Found this from Donna:

I need help with locating the birthplace of my g grandfather
Name: August DEMBROSKY (DEMBROWSKY (I), DOMBROSKY (I) etc.)
Born: 1871
Birthplace: from Petition for Naturalization-most likely spelled
phonetically as he did not write: Mamusen,( Massussen, Manusen )Russia
He spoke Lithuanian and German
Immigration Date: 1895
Married: Lena MESKUS(MISCHKUS etc.)(/she's another story)
Date of Petition: 1905 renouncing Nicholas II Emperor of Russia

Death record and Census records state Russia/Poland as birthplace.
Other records state Germany as birthplace

Family Lore: August's family raised horses for royalty, possible he had
soomething to do with horses as he worked in Shemmelrock's Undertaking and
Embalming Livery Stable on South Side of Pittsburgh and as a steelworker.

Had some help in Salt Lake locating a name that sounds close to Massussen
etc. in a Russian Gazetteer-MANUCHIN was what the experts came up with.
This was a German Colony according to the Gazetteer. When I enter this in
the internet Odessa comes up. I'm confused more than I was when I started.

Does the name of the town sound familiar to anyone? Are there other
posssibilities. I assumed that he was from closer to Lithuania.

Thank You, Donna

Anna Reichkof (my ggg grandmother

Subject: Re: [LITHUANIA-L] Wystiniec, Poland/Vystytis, Lithuania Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:53:47 -0400 Hi Donna,On my map I have Lake Vis~tytis on the border between Lithuanian and the Kaliningrad region. Vis~tytis is at the north end of the lake and it has a church. Pavis~tytis is 1 mile due east on the little river running east out of the middle of the lake.I would guess the records would be in the Polish archives.Good luck,Arv______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________Subject: [LITHUANIA-L] Wystiniec, Poland/Vystytis, LithuaniaAuthor: Non-HP-dhagberg (
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